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veganwitch
Mar 25th, 2006, 06:31 PM
This thread is informative and discouraging on so many levels. I consider myself to be fairly well informed but I guess you learn something new everyday.

No more duracell or birdseye here.

Also, could someone point me in the right direction for more info about Nestle. ? Specifically the injecting coffee into kittens stomachs???? (please dont' let this be true!). I buy Poland Spring bottled water. I've bought it for years and I recently heard it was now owned by Nestle.

I'm with you folks who find this incredibley overwhelming . Some days (most days) I feel like I can't win no matter what I do.

I had just recently discovered Green and Black's too and thought it was a wonderful thing.

treehugga
Apr 19th, 2006, 07:48 AM
Just about all the multi's as they are all corrupt.
Especially Nestle and Loreal due to their disgusting human rights abuse. Maxfactor - still testing on animals.
Cigarette companies-gave up when I discovered their corrupt and abusive values plus damage to environment and human rights.

Most of all I despise McD's. For obvious reasons.

I only buy from small companies with good ethical values. There are so many good ones around and we should support them.

Monday
Apr 19th, 2006, 12:52 PM
Please take heart people. Eaverytime you run out of something replace it with something ethical and vegan and then you will always know where to get it from again (just keep an eye that they are still ethical!!). It is best to try to support small ethical organisations where possible and local ones too.

Ecover unfortunately has a 5 year rolling policy for animal testing on its ingredients.

The Compassionate Shopping Guide and the Animal Free Shopper are really helpful and we also use the Good Shopping Guide.

I too felt overwhelmed when I started and we still make mistakes but just do it one item at a time as you run out and eventually you will find reliable suppliers who you like and it becomes relatively easy and you feel good.

And yes sometimes, you might have to compromise but do the best you can.

Monday xx

Kevster
Apr 29th, 2006, 11:56 AM
The article has a bit on Coca Killer too:

'The real cost of a bag of salad: You pay 99p. Africa pays 50 litres of fresh water

By Jeremy Laurance, Health Editor
Published: 29 April 2006

To you it is a bag of salad, dropped into the supermarket trolley with the weekly groceries. But to farmers in Kenya starved of the water extracted by large scale agriculture to grow it, it may spell destitution. The world is running out of water and British supermarket shoppers are contributing to global drought, according to environmental pressure groups.

Customers who scour the aisles of Tesco, Sainsbury and Waitrose for Spanish tomatoes, Egyptian potatoes and Kenyan roses, are intensifying the worldwide shortage of our most precious resource.

In Kenya, the food items grown for export include lettuce, rocket, baby leaf salad, mangetout, peas and broccoli. Even producing a small 50g salad bag wastes almost 50 litres of water in the countries where the commodity is at its most precious. A mixed salad containing tomatoes, celery and cucumber, as well as lettuce, would require more than 300 litres. Washing, processing and packaging adds to that total. [...]'

http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article360836.ece

rianaelf
Apr 30th, 2006, 08:16 PM
Shopping can be a nightmare out there. Takes me twice as long to do any shopping as I am constantly reading the labels.

When I get the chance, I stick stickers that says 'This product was tested on animals' on various items in shops.

hahaha, kool, good idea, where do you get the stickers?

spockafina
May 1st, 2006, 05:56 PM
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Russ
May 1st, 2006, 10:24 PM
Almost all of what I had in mind has been said;

But here's a few more.

Marks and Spencer fund nightly bulldozings of Palestinian houses. While Palestinians are still inside. I'm not claiming to have a solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict (perhaps overthrowing the American capitalist regime would be a start) but this certainly isn't helping.

Some people spoke of an Asda-Walmart connection; I'm pretty sure they're actually the same company, and just have a different name here in the UK.

As for Sainsburys, are you sure they support animal testing? I try to avoid it anyway because Lord Sainsbury is a bastard for various reasons, but on the back of their products I'm pretty sure it says "Sainsburys is against animal testing and funds research into alternatives."

A great book to read about Sainsburys, Monsanto, Asda/Walmart, privatisation and the way big business dominates government policy is Captive State: The Corporate Takeover of Britain by George Monbiot, who is a really smart guy.

Enchantress
May 1st, 2006, 10:31 PM
Nestle and Coca-Cola, just because they're generally considered to be crap. I should really research unethical companies a bit more :o.

veggiesosage
May 1st, 2006, 10:41 PM
Asda was actually taken over by Wal mart a couple of years ago.

It annoys me that Asda now puts 'part of the Wal mart family' on its signs, as if that makes it sounds less threatening and more cuddly than 'wal mart evil empire'.

mophoto
May 3rd, 2006, 06:27 PM
Get a re-usable bottle like a Nalgene that can last for many, many years.



nalgene- there is another company to boycott
( i have a bottle too, got it before i read this)

http://www.rmad.org/nalgene.html

Russ
May 3rd, 2006, 06:40 PM
That is sick.

Roxy
May 3rd, 2006, 06:52 PM
I bought a SIGG bottle on-line from this (http://www.reusablebags.com/store/reusable-bottles-sigg-bottles-c-19_33.html?osCsid=51a84ede39462b760dbc72ae1840124c ) place and I love it!

I have also heard that Nalgene bottles are not healthy as the plastic leaches chemicals into the water.

mophoto
May 4th, 2006, 05:10 AM
thanks roxy!

Troutina
Aug 1st, 2006, 04:46 PM
Hahahaaaa:

http://c.myspace.com/Groups/00015/97/93/15193979_l.jpg

aubergine
Aug 1st, 2006, 05:01 PM
We passed him in the Lanes on the Brighton meetup on Sunday!

Troutina
Aug 1st, 2006, 05:23 PM
We passed him in the Lanes on the Brighton meetup on Sunday!

*shudder*

I'm so sorry for you.

aubergine
Aug 1st, 2006, 08:39 PM
He looked dissapointed we didn't say hello and make a fuss of him.

Russ
Aug 4th, 2006, 08:36 PM
One can of spraypaint each, let's take back the streets.

Soul Rebel
Nov 3rd, 2006, 07:59 PM
Nestle holds about 50% of the world's breast milk substitute market and is being boycotted for continued breaches of the 1981 WHO Code regulating the marketing of breast milk substitutes.

Nestle encourages bottle feeding primarily by either giving away free samples of baby milk to hospitals, or neglecting to collect payments. It has been criticised for misinforming mothers and health workers in promotional literature. Nestle implies that malnourished mothers, and mothers of twins and premature babies are unable to breastfeed, despite health organisations claims that there is no evidence to support this.

Evidence of direct advertising to mothers has been found in over twenty countries such as South Africa and Thailand. Instructions and health warnings on packaging are often either absent, not prominently displayed or in an inappropriate language. All of these actions directly contravene the Code regulating the marketing of baby milk formulas.

Nestle own nearly 50% of the cosmetics company L'Oreal. L'Oreal was subject to boycott calls from animal rights groups including PeTA because of its animal testing policy. Since then L'Oreal has claimed that it no longer tests finished products on animals. This statement is obviously intended to mislead since finished products do not require further testing and it implies that the ingredients are certainly still subject to tests. Some groups called off the boycott in response to L'Oreals' claims, however there are individuals and organisations who continue the boycott and L'Oreal continues to test on animals.

Note: According to Baby Milk Action, the following Tesco own-brand breakfast cereals are manufactured by Nestle; Corn Flakes, Bran Flakes, Puffed Rice, Sultana Bran, Cocoa Puffs, Cocoa Flakes.

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/8148/nestle.html

http://danny.oz.au/BFAG/

http://www.mcspotlight.org/beyond/nestle.html

http://www.infactcanada.ca/nestle_boycott_product.htm#US

veggiewoman
Nov 3rd, 2006, 08:04 PM
I learnt about Nestle earlier this year , shocking and sad news.

There is also this website too

http://www.babymilkaction.org/index.html

apyatez
Dec 31st, 2006, 05:56 PM
billy,
there is a new balance factory shop in keswick in the lakes. it is superb.and cheap as they are made just up the raod

Roxy
May 28th, 2007, 06:38 AM
I'm sorry if it's already been posted, but I found out about this website, where you can vote for which companies belong in the "Corporate Hall of Shame". It also gives some interesting info on reasons to boycott certain companies.

http://www.stopcorporateabuse.org/cms/index.cfm?group_id=1000

empress
Jun 24th, 2007, 01:39 PM
Sorry if this has been posted already, but I read in the UTNE reader last night about the March of Dimes giving millions of dollars a year to fund animal experimentation. :(

cobweb
Jun 24th, 2007, 02:08 PM
I admit I have given up boycotting companies as such :o . It's a total minefield because so many are controlled by others, etc.........Plus, I am very poor at the moment so my choices are narrowed by poverty :mad: .

Roxy
Jun 24th, 2007, 03:30 PM
You can only do the best you can cobweb. I understand that buying ethically sometimes costs quite a bit more. There are other things you can do though, such as make your own cleaners etc. I'm sure we had a thread somewhere about how to make your own natural cleaners (with ingredients such as baking soda, lemon juice, vinegar etc).