sub for Condensed Milk?

[cobweb]

Hi :)

Can anyone tell me what I can use as a substitute for Condensed Milk please?.

My son will be making Digestive Fudge this week at school and I can easily veganise the recipe, except for the Condensed Milk which I haven't dealt with before, never having made vegan fudge.

Thanks for your help :thumbsup:.

[Risker]

Can't you just condense some vegan milk?

[Mr Flibble]

This has been discussed several times before, but in short: it won't work.

Lactose reacts differently on heating (maillard reaction) to sucrose (caramalisation), thus adding it to soya/coconut/rice milk will not give you the desired effect.

The easiest option you have is to use Cherry's millionares shortbread recipe for the filling.

[cobweb]

oh poo.

[Mr Flibble]

Partly depends what you're trying to do with it of course. What is the whole recipe? If you're not heating the condensed milk then another susbstitute may be easier.

[cobweb]

here's the recipe:

100g marg
100g sugar
100g crushed digestive biccies
15ml syrup
1 sml tin condensed milk
100g chocolate

melt marg & sugar in pan
add syrup & milk
bring slowly to boil
boil til brown in colour
remove, beat til bubbles subside
stir in crushed biscuits
spread in tin
cool
melt choc and spread over fudge

[Cherry]

Hmm.

(Mr Flibble, are you insulting my caramel recipe!? Admittedly, I had a few 'Oh no, it's turned to fudge!' disasters whilst perfecting it, but I think it usually works now :p)

Cobweb, I'd use a tablespoon or two of that soyatoo whipping cream. Or even alpro single cream. Maybe you could have a trial run first?

[harpy]

A trial run sounds a good idea - am just imagining CW's son feeling embarrassed if his version doesn't come out right.

I wonder whether he could use something else for that layer instead of the fudge. Peanut butter might be nice - mind you peanut butter is nice in almost anything.

Fudge seems quite a difficult thing for children to make in class anyway, what with all the boiling of sugar etc.

[Mr Flibble]

Mr Flibble, are you insulting my caramel recipe!?

On the contrary, I was recommending it as an easy alternative.

[Cherry]

I know, I'm only joking :)

I don't think the idea is that there's a separate layer of fudge, I get the idea that the recipe is for a cross between chocolate biscuit cake and fudge. I think the cream might work because as Harpy says, you just need sugar and liquid to make actual fudge, so with all the sugar in that recipe I think you might just need something creamy and wet to boil it all together with.

[cobweb]

thanks

i was wondering about using soyatoo but i didn't know what would happen to it if boiled?

also, i agree, its a stupid thing for kids to make at school - and this is only their third cookery lesson. It would have been better to teach them something nutritionally useful really, and i can remember making non-vegan fudge and how difficult it was.

you're right, Cherry, the biscuits are mixed completely in with the fudge - weird eh???

[Cherry]

Yeh, though I have to say, I'm quite intrigued. I do have a wee bit of a sweet tooth though.

Soyatoo is fine when it's boiled. I use it to make caramel. Let us know what happens!

[harpy]

OIC.

Look on the bright side, Cobweb - at least they're not making deep-fried Mars Bars ;)

[cobweb]

OIC.

Look on the bright side, Cobweb - at least they're not making deep-fried Mars Bars ;)


not this time anyway :rolleyes:
i'm sure we'll get to the Haggis and Clapshot though, and he's already made Oatcakes - even though Orcadians don't like to think of themselves as Scottish :bandanna:

the first lesson all started so promisingly with Lentil Soup aswell..........

my husband says just tell the teacher he can't do this one but i hate to give anyone the idea that we can't veganise everything :o
i might do a trial run but it's a pain in the butt this week as i already have party food including cakes to make for a Christmas thing at school :rollseyes_ani:.

[Poison Ivy]

If anyone is ever feeling extravagant Pangea do tins of condensed soya milk (and a soya dulce du leche)

http://www.veganstore.com/973c.html

[mariana]

Not sure about the digestive biscuits.....but plain old vegan chocolate fudge is really easy to make! I wonder if you could just stir crushed digestive biscuits into the mix....?

4 cups powdered sugar
½ cup cocoa powder
½ cup nondairy milk
2 tablespoons nonhydrogenated margarine
½ cup vegan chocolate chips (or ½ cup chopped up chocolate bar)

Spray a 9-inch x 9-inch baking pan well with nonstick spray and set aside

Sift the powdered sugar and cocoa powder together into a large mixing bowl, add the chocolate chips, and set aside.

In a small saucepan, heat the nondairy milk and margarine to a boil over medium-high heat, stirring constantly to avoid burning. When the milk is at a steady, strong boil, pour it over the powdered sugar mixture and stir well with a wooden spoon until everything is well combined and the heat has melted the chocolate chips.

Spread the fudge out into the prepared pan and refrigerate for a day or more to solidify.

[herbwormwood]

Hi :)

Can anyone tell me what I can use as a substitute for Condensed Milk please?.

My son will be making Digestive Fudge this week at school and I can easily veganise the recipe, except for the Condensed Milk which I haven't dealt with before, never having made vegan fudge.

Thanks for your help :thumbsup:.


Alpro soya cream is similar in consistency to evap milk but I have never used it in a recipe, just to pour over puddings. If you just want your son to be able to blend in with the other kids I suggest you send a little box of soya cream with him, he can blame the teacher if it doesn't turn out well.

[cobweb]

Alpro soya cream is similar in consistency to evap milk but I have never used it in a recipe, just to pour over puddings. If you just want your son to be able to blend in with the other kids I suggest you send a little box of soya cream with him, he can blame the teacher if it doesn't turn out well.

:lol:
unfortunately i often can't get hold of the Alpro cream but can get the Soyatoo
i've decided not to do a trial run, just send him in with the stuff, i'm sure i will eat it even if it doesn't come out quite right! :p:o

thanks for the replies, i will post up what we use in the end and how it turns out :thumbsup:

[harpy]

Heh, I reckon herbwormwood has the right idea about pinning it on the teacher.

Do report back, if it works I reckon we'll all be trying it :D

[cobweb]

well the mixture was made today - it hasn't set into a 'proper' fudge consistency but it does take fudge-like. It's like a very rich topping from a 'millionaire's shortbread'. I spread some over a plain digestive and it was bloomin' marvellous! :p

[sandra]

That does sound lovely Cobweb! :)

Now you've put me in the notion for some. :rolleyes: :D

[cobweb]

help yourself its in the fridge!
(*and check on my spag bog while you're in the kitchen will you?, ta*)

[sandra]

Ooooooo.......the spag bol is delicious Cobweb and I helped myself to some fresh orange juice while I was there too...........hope you don't mind! :thumbsup: :D

[xrodolfox]

OMG!!!!

Vegan dulce de leche!!!!!

That is the *only* thing I ever miss as a vegan. I've tried for ages to make it at home but failed. This is going to be what I ask for x-mas for. I am so EXCITED!!!!!!
http://www.veganstore.com/index.html?stocknumber=973D

[cobweb]

Ooooooo.......the spag bol is delicious Cobweb and I helped myself to some fresh orange juice while I was there too...........hope you don't mind! :thumbsup: :D

make yourself at home :rolleyes:
:bigsmile: