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Tigerlily
Dec 11th, 2006, 08:26 PM
It means it contains all vegan ingredients but not on purpose. The company who made it wasn't thinking of vegans, the ingredients they used happened to be vegan.

vegcurry
Dec 11th, 2006, 08:44 PM
Brekkies: Tea and toast
Lunch: 1x banana, 1x plum, salad with walnuts, hummous, and Mozarella Cheezly
Dinner: not bothering with it, got an upset tum.
Numerous cups of tea throughout the day

fiamma
Dec 11th, 2006, 10:01 PM
It means it contains all vegan ingredients but not on purpose. The company who made it wasn't thinking of vegans, the ingredients they used happened to be vegan.

Sorry Tigerlily, but how do you know they weren't thinking of vegans? It seems like a rather pointless distinction to make. If something is vegan, it's vegan, I don't see how the company's "intention" has any bearing on the final product. :rolleyes:

PainterLady
Dec 11th, 2006, 10:17 PM
I think it's important to differentiate between the two and their intentions. The reason being, a company that has intentionally created a vegan product that has the Vegan logo is obviously not going to add milk or casein at any given time. A company that has products which are not intentionally vegan (called accidental vegan) can, will and often do change their recipes and add animal products such as milk powder, casein..etc..
Therefore, I think that a definition(accidentally vegan) for a product that is not intentionally vegan is appropriate. :)
Also, I would rather support a company that is intentionally adding vegan products to their food lines and supporting the movement by bearing the vegan logo.

Tigerlily
Dec 11th, 2006, 10:18 PM
I mean it's made by an omnivore company, who does not make vegan specialty foods. They happened to make a knock-off version of a popular chocolate candy. They happened to not use milk in their ingredients. When they were making it they weren't thinking, "OMG THIS IS SPECIAL VEGAN CANDY!" They were making it for the general, chocolate-eating public. The fact that they happened not to use milk is what makes it "accidentally vegan". I'm not the first person to use the term "accidentally vegan", it's used by a lot of people all over, even PETA uses it to describe mainstream products with vegan ingredients.

fiamma
Dec 11th, 2006, 10:30 PM
I'm uncomfortable with the distinction, because it makes vegan foods sound "elitist" and makes us sound even more of a minority than we already are. I feel too that it's wrong to call beans, fruits or veggies "vegan food"... they are simply food items, and those which made up the vegan diet before these speciality foods even existed.

Tigerlily
Dec 11th, 2006, 10:34 PM
Oh jeez. :rolleyes: Why are you taking this so seriously? I'm not trying to start an argument, I wasn't trying to make vegan food seem elitist, I wasn't trying to make vegan seem like a minority. I just used a common phrase that many vegans have used before and I didn't think much about it.

:rolleyes:

fiamma
Dec 11th, 2006, 10:44 PM
I'm just expressing my point of view, Tigerlily, the same as you. I'm sorry if your'e not comfortable with that.

pavotrouge
Dec 11th, 2006, 10:45 PM
Thanx a lot for the recipe jamboxrock! The recipe sounds divine. Gotta figure out where to get peppermint extract over here.

back to healthier eating habits:

weetabix with rice-soy-oatmilk

rice with tomatoes and courgettes

some physalis again

an apple

handful of roasted peanuts

Indian kidney bean curry + flat bread

tomato bruschetta

applepie
Dec 11th, 2006, 10:45 PM
coffee + soya milk
quinoa porridge, dried apricots + banana

pumpkin seed roll
2 apples
2 tangerines

roasted sweet potato and butternut squash with a soya yogurt-horseradish-dip
steamed brussels sprouts

applepie
Dec 11th, 2006, 10:48 PM
Thanx a lot for the recipe jamboxrock! The recipe sounds divine. Gotta figure out where to get peppermint extract over here.
This may sound strange, but try your local chemist - they're usually quite good for this sort of weird stuff (well, ours is, and I've heard this from other people).

Tigerlily
Dec 12th, 2006, 12:17 AM
I'm just expressing my point of view, Tigerlily, the same as you. I'm sorry if your'e not comfortable with that.

I'm not uncomfortable with your point of view. I'm uncomfortable with how you made me seem like an evil person for suggesting a food item was "accidentally vegan".

Cherry
Dec 12th, 2006, 12:52 AM
So... moving on :)

I ate 4 mince pies, 3 clementines, half an apple and 2 lemon cookies AFTER dinner :eek:

Lunch: large bowl of tofu, veg & risotto with brown rice
Dinner: pasta with aubergine & pepper sauce, green beans and carrots

Oh, and to drink, A glass of orange juice, 2 cups of barleycup, and about 6 cups of tea :o

veggiegirl3
Dec 12th, 2006, 01:18 AM
Breakfast:
-Oatmeal with soymilk and brown sugar

Lunch:
-Yves "chicker burger" with ketchup
-leftover brown basmati rice with EB
-Steamed broccoli
-Red pepper strips and baby carrots

Dinner:
-Grilled tempeh with ketchup
-Millet cooked in veg. broth with EB and Bragg's
-Salad (baby carrots and romaine)
Dessert: Smoothie (OJ, soy milk, banana)

Later:
-Cream of wheat with soymilk and brown sugar I think

Tigerlily
Dec 12th, 2006, 01:30 AM
Hardly any veggies or fruits today. We don't have very many in the house.

Cereal with soy milk

Sandwich: Whole wheat bread with vegan mayo, mustard, a couple of Tofurky slices, onion strips, tomato slices

A few pickles

3 mint filled chocolates

Cup of tea

Cup of dry sweet cereal

Blueberry waffle with maple syrup

Banana

Glass of soy milk

Piece of whole wheat bread with Earth Balance

Roxy
Dec 12th, 2006, 05:29 AM
Fiamma, "accidentally vegan" isn't a phrase that Tigerlily made up. It's a very common phrase here in North America. I guess it's like a bit of slang.

I quite like the phrase actually lol.

Anyway Tigerlily - I accidentally bought 4 boxes of those things tonight :D :D :D :D They'd better taste good!!!! :D :D

Tigerlily
Dec 12th, 2006, 05:43 AM
They do taste good! I'm going to buy more tomorrow. I think they only sell them around Christmas time, so I'll stock up!

Look4Hope
Dec 12th, 2006, 05:46 AM
B: Three cups of coffee, oatmeal, toast with Earth Balance spread, and orange juice.
L: Banana and vegannaise sandwich, blue corn chips, black rice Thai salad, Knutzen's cherry cola Spritzer.
D: Green salad with a Seeds of Change dressing, fried Garden Tempeh, stuffed portobella mushroom, french bread. Dessert was the almond and pecan soy ice cream by Turtle Mountain. I used veganrella for the mushroom and it was better than the other vegan cheeses I have tried.

I drained and pressed tofu and made some tofu eggless egg salad for tomorrow's lunch.

Tigerlily
Dec 12th, 2006, 05:52 AM
Banana and vegenaise sandwich! That sounds odd but good. Tell me more about it. I'm curious. :p

Look4Hope
Dec 12th, 2006, 05:56 AM
Growing up in the south, we ate some strange things sometimes. I always thought it was because we didn't have much money or it might have been a family peculiarity. We ate banana and mayo sandwiches alternating with canned pineapple and mayo sandwiches. Nothing else, just the bread, fruit and mayo. Vegannaise is so yummy that I am happy as a clam to eat my fruit sandwiches. Somehow corn chips seem to be the perfect accompaniment. They just seem to work better together.

I just read somewhere that Elvis ate fried banana and peanut butter sandwiches growing up.

Tigerlily
Dec 12th, 2006, 06:04 AM
I think I might give it a try. :D

Roxy
Dec 12th, 2006, 06:17 AM
I just tried those fake After Eight's :D I hope I don't accidentally-on purpose eat the whole box!!!! They're so yummy!! Thanks for telling me about those :D

Tigerlily
Dec 12th, 2006, 06:20 AM
My whole family likes them. My brothers hate anything "vegan" (:rolleyes: ) but they ate most of these. :p

veggiegirl3
Dec 12th, 2006, 07:09 AM
My whole family likes them. My brothers hate anything "vegan" (:rolleyes: ) but they ate most of these. :p

My sister does too, but I think she does on the principle that it's vegan! :mad: She was saying to me when I offered her panckaes, "Are they normal or are they VEGAN?" (Finally I told her that she should be eating fruit because it's "vegan!" :p )Seriously, she can be impossible.


B: Three cups of coffee, oatmeal, toast with Earth Balance spread, and orange juice.
L: Banana and vegannaise sandwich, blue corn chips, black rice Thai salad, Knutzen's cherry cola Spritzer.
D: Green salad with a Seeds of Change dressing, fried Garden Tempeh, stuffed portobella mushroom, french bread. Dessert was the almond and pecan soy ice cream by Turtle Mountain. I used veganrella for the mushroom and it was better than the other vegan cheeses I have tried.

Your day looks de-lish!!

Woodsie
Dec 12th, 2006, 09:55 AM
Today ...

B: 2 x tea & soy milk
c/f Orange Juice
Fresh Lychees
1 slice grain toast, nuttolex and vegemite

sn: Apple & Chai tea with soy milk

L: Grain sandwich with Tofu Veggies, lettuce, snowpea sprouts, avocado,
vegan mayonnaise, chilli sauce, mushrooms & onions

Sn: Chocolate
Wasabe Peas

D: Last of the bean and tofu chilli with bok choy & green beans & black
olives

Sn: Medjool date squashed between 2 ginger biscuits x 2 (been comfort eating - I hate shopping for clothes)