Dispatches: Supermarket secrets

[Kumem]

It's on, on Thursday.
Just seen the advert and thought I would mention it.
The advert is along the lines of, "ever seen where your food comes from"
They mention a chicken containing a pint of fat - so much for chicken being the healthy option. With a bit of luck, they will mention the additives, hormones etc in animal products.

Liz

[aubergine]

What channel is this on, and what time? I can't wait.

[snaffler]

This Thursday as in the 28th ? is it.

[Kumem]

28th yes - it's Channel 4 I think.
This is from one website:

DISPATCHES: SUPERMARKET SECRETS: 9pm
How and what we eat has radically changed over the past few decades with the all-consuming rise of the supermarket. But what price are we paying for the homogenised, cheap and convenient food in which supermarkets specialise? In a two-part programme, journalist Jane Moore investigates how supermarkets have affected the food on our plates and uncovers the information shoppers need to know. Using a combination of undercover filming and scientific analysis, Supermarket Secrets investigates whether the food on supermarket shelves is really as good as it looks, whether prices are as good as they seem and what happens behind the scenes in the production of supermarket food.

I love it when the general public are faced with what they are really eating.

[Roxy]

Wish we could get that programme here!

[Kumem]

If our video player worked I'd record it and send it to you!
Wonder if anyone has a recordable DVD player. That would be relatively cheap to send over surely.

[Yoggy]

But our DVD players here use different format from over there :mad:

[Kumem]

But our DVD players here use different format from over there :mad:

Mine is region 1 and 2, but don't if you could record in either region. Mine doesn't record anyway.

[snaffler]

On another note regarding DVD players if you would like to make your player more open and easy to errmm play any region DVD send me a PM with your player model and type the rest is easy for you to do. Hay presto 0 region players for all vegans.

Sorry Sony owners these have to have hardware modifications and cost silly money to do.

[Kumem]

On another note regarding DVD players if you would like to make your player more open and easy to errmm play any region DVD send me a PM with your player model and type the rest is easy for you to do. Hay presto 0 region players for all vegans.

Sorry Sony owners these have to have hardware modifications and cost silly money to do.

You're beginning to sound like a dodgy geezer ;)

That's quite cool though. I think mine can only change regions a couple of times or so, so I might take you up on that.

Liz

[bulletproof]

anyone know if this will be repeated? i missed it

[Gorilla]

erm, it hasn't been on yet has it? it's the 27th today....

[Kumem]

yeah, it's tomorrow night :)

[Pob]

Doh - I wanted to see this but I'm gonna be out playing badminton. Can't even tape it cos we've got a housefull of people and only one Sky box and no terrestrial aerial.
If I set it to tape someone is bound to turn it over.

With a bit of luck it will end up on the P2P networks - this would be good anyway as it will give loads more people the chance to see it.

[bulletproof]

woops silly me. thanks

[JoJo]

Did anyone else see Dispatches tonight? (28/07/05) 9pm Channel 4.I'm so glad I don't eat meat!!

[miss_laura]

It didn't show anything particularly life-changingly shocking (although maybe I'm just desensitised after years of reading about factory farms and vivisection labs), granted there were a few chickens in a horrific state, unable to walk etc, but they also showed a so-called "responsible" chicken farmer, who feeds his chickens the "proper" drugs etc., and I have a feeling that most omnivores will convince themselves that this okay, and that most of the meat they buy will be from that kind of farm.

They also had a variety of different meat tastings, promoting organic meat over the cheaper variety, and they even showed a menu of a well-respected professional chef, focusing on the foie gras. *sigh*

I really don't think this documentary would have discouraged any omni from eating their meat; there are much worse things they could have shown of intensive chicken rearing, especially with laying hens. Next week they're showing the dairy industry though, maybe this will be a bit more explicit (Monday, 9pm).

[AbFab]

I caught the last half, as I was watching Extras instead (Ricky Gervais ROCKS!), but what I did see, just confirmed to me all that I already knew. If this program isn't enough to turn the rest of the British TV-watching public at least vegetarian, they are nearly (I never like to give up completely) a lost cause. Next Monday's show will feature the dairy industry, so we may get some more vegans on this forum from Monday night! Ever the optimist, me.

There is already a thread about this here (http://veganforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=68944#post68944).

[Mozbee]

Yes it was great to see some more proof on TV that eating meat is illogical and totally callous.
Seeing those little chicks being tumbled down the conveyor belt as if they were just brussel sprouts...how can people do that work?

[Mozbee]

I didn't like the eating bit :eek: blurgk!

[Gliondrach]

They showed a way of telling which chickens had been in the more intensive systems because they had ammonia burns on their legs where they had rested on the droppings-littered floor. This wouldn't happen to birds that had some sort of welfare checking. They found that 82% of the chickens they looked at in supermarkets had these burns. This might result in a few people rejecting those chickens. It might encourage the farmers to give more consideration to the welfare of the birds during their short, miserable lives. A small improvement it would be, but better than none.

[gibby]

it was good

I asked my mother to watch it but I think she would have switched over as they stated it had upsetting scenes of factory farming etc at the start

it was very tame/lame but raised some good issues but really put the blame on the supermarkets, the advisory bodies and the public for not opening their minds to this stuff.

I must print off some more stickers tommorow
"factory farmed"
"full of toxins"
"not suitable for human consumption"
"sufferring as seen on TV"
"pint of fat in every bird"
"dead piglet"
"dead fluffy lamb"

I can get lots of these out on every visit to tesco and for some funny reason the stuff dosent sell as quick as the non stickered items.

you can buy the stickers 65 to a page for about 10P per sheet at any small stationary shop or buy boxes for 7 quid and put em through you pc

if anyone wants a templete pm me your email addy and ill be happy to help

every little helps


Gibby

[Mozbee]

It's fantastic that these facts and appauling conditions are being exposed, especially so close to the prog about SNGP campaigns.

[AbFab]

Every Little Helps indeed. :)

[terrace max]

The most interesting bit for me was the interview with Dr Michael Crawford. He was the guy that turned a supermarket chicken into almost a pint of fat.

He mentioned a study which found that force feeding in factory farming was leading to a change in the ratio of omega oils in many people's diets, which in turn might cause mental health problems in kids.

The programme's presenter didn't really pick up on this. Does anyone know any more about this study?