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Aug 4th, 2005, 11:20 AM
I know this is an old link, but some may not have seen it, and it is really emotional. I tried searching for it on the forums and couldn't find it mentioned.
It's about a young woman travelling around Chernobyl on her motorbike.
Somehow the broken English really adds to the atmosphere.

adam antichrist
Aug 4th, 2005, 03:12 PM
Wow, it's amazing they can even go there. There is a section of australia probably 10+ times the size of great britain where the said great britains blew up atom bombs in the 1950s (and the indigenous people living there) and you need permits to drive through it, and in some places permissions from 2 or more aboriginal communities who are the traditional owners of the land.

Funny, they gave back the land chock full of radioactive waste, and the land with abandoned asbestos mines, but Sydney is still owned by whitey! :rolleyes:

Aug 4th, 2005, 07:04 PM
I have seen that web page before. It truly is very sad.

Aug 5th, 2005, 02:32 AM
Actually. . . if you had done a search for "Chernobyl" on Veganforum you would have found a little thread called Does Electricity Kill a Large Amount of Animals or Not? (http://veganforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=32471#post32471) with this exact link. Who says Veganforum doesn't have it all?

Tofu Monster
Aug 5th, 2005, 02:49 AM
looks like the lady who does that website is from kiev, which is where my ex-wife is from, and where my son was born. i went there the year after the chernobyl disaster and we were given strict warnings about not going swimming in the river cos of the radiation. (of course we went swimming anyway.)

Aug 5th, 2005, 09:27 AM
Actually. . . if you had done a search for "Chernobyl" on Veganforum you would have found a little thread called Does Electricity Kill a Large Amount of Animals or Not? (http://veganforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=32471#post32471) with this exact link. Who says Veganforum doesn't have it all?
Heh - I found that thread, but I didn't look in it. :o

Apr 20th, 2006, 09:16 AM

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Wildlife defies Chernobyl radiation

By Stephen Mulvey
BBC News website

It contains some of the most contaminated land in the world, yet it has become a haven for wildlife - a nature reserve in all but name.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41577000/jpg/_41577128_horse203.jpg Przewalski's horses are breeding in the zone (Picture: Sergey Gaschak)

The exclusion zone around the Chernobyl nuclear power station is teeming with life.
As humans were evacuated from the area 20 years ago, animals moved in. Existing populations multiplied and species not seen for decades, such as the lynx and eagle owl, began to return.
There are even tantalising footprints of a bear, an animal that has not trodden in this part of Ukraine for centuries.
"Animals don't seem to sense radiation and will occupy an area regardless of the radiation condition," says radioecologist Sergey Gaschak.
"A lot of birds are nesting inside the sarcophagus," he adds, referring to the steel and concrete shield erected over the reactor that exploded in 1986.
"Starlings, pigeons, swallows, redstart - I saw nests, and I found eggs."
There may be plutonium in the zone, but there is no herbicide or pesticide, no industry, no traffic, and marshlands are no longer being drained.
There is nothing to disturb the wild boar - said to have multiplied eightfold between 1986 and 1988 - except its similarly resurgent predator, the wolf.
The picture was not quite so rosy in the first weeks and months after of the disaster, when radiation levels were much, much higher.
Four square kilometres of pine forest in the immediate vicinity of the reactor went ginger brown and died, earning the name of the Red Forest.
Some animals in the worst-hit areas also died or stopped reproducing. Mice embryos simply dissolved, while horses left on an island 6km from the power plant died when their thyroid glands disintegrated.
Cattle on the same island were stunted due to thyroid damage, but the next generation were found to be surprisingly normal.
Now it's typical for animals to be radioactive - too radioactive for humans to eat safely - but otherwise healthy.
There is a distinction to be made between animals which stay in one place, such as mice, and larger animals - elks, say - which move in and out of contaminated land as they range over large areas.
The animals that wander widely end up with a lower dose of radiation than animals stuck in a radiation hotspot.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41577000/jpg/_41577124_elk203.jpg The elk population has boomed in the absence of human interference

But there are signs that these unfortunate creatures can adapt to their circumstances.
Sergey Gaschak has experimented on mice in the Red Forest, parts of which are slowly growing back, albeit with stunted and misshapen trees.
"We marked animals then recaptured them again much later," he says.
"And we found they lived as long as animals in relatively clean areas."
The next step was to take these other mice and put them in an enclosure in the Red Forest.
"They felt not very well," Sergey says.
"The distinction between the local and newcomer animals was very evident."
In all his research, Sergey has only found one mouse with cancer-like symptoms.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gifZONE DWELLERS
Reappeared: Lynx, eagle owl, great white egret, nesting swans, and possibly a bear
Introduced: European bison, Przewalski's horse
Booming mammals: Badger, beaver, boar, deer, elk, fox, hare, otter, raccoon dog, wolf
Booming birds: Aquatic warbler, azure tit, black grouse, black stork, crane, white-tailed eagle

He has found ample evidence of DNA mutations, but nothing that affected the animals' physiology or reproductive ability.
"Nothing with two heads," he says.
Mary Mycio, author of Wormwood Forest, a natural history of the Chernobyl zone, points out that a mutant animal in the wild will usually die and be eaten before scientists can observe it.
And in general, she notes, scientists study populations as a whole, and are not that interested in what happens to particular individuals.
Nuclear guardian
But she too argues that the benefits to wildlife of removing people from the zone, have far outweighed any harm from radiation.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41577000/jpg/_41577130_mousedrawer2_203.jpg Mouse DNA has changed, but with few visible effects

In her book she quotes the British scientist and environmentalist James Lovelock, who wrote approvingly in the Daily Telegraph in 2001 of the "unscheduled appearance" of wildlife at Chernobyl.
He went on: "I have wondered if the small volumes of nuclear waste from power production should be stored in tropical forests and other habitats in need of a reliable guardian against their destruction by greedy developers".
A large part of the Chernobyl zone within Belarus has already officially been turned into a nature reserve.
Sergey Gaschak wants Ukraine to follow suit and to turn its 2,500 sq km of evacuated land into a reserve or national park. Unlike the Ukrainian Green Party, he is not bothered if the government goes ahead with plans to build a deep deposit in the zone for nuclear waste from all over the country. He says the eagle owl will not care two hoots.