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eve
Aug 18th, 2005, 07:59 AM
Steph, I've certainly fasted for 4 days and another time for ten days. It's a good idea to have someone to keep in touch with, because after a couple of days you feel so good that you tend to ignore the plan of 4 days, and could continue for too long. Fasting to me is always a water fast - taking fruit juices isn't fasting at all, it is going on a juice regimen.

Veganful, I'm not really into 'detox' as we detox with our breaths, with evacuation, etc. If one eats a whole food plant based diet, there doesn't seem to be the need for a detox, though now it's the 'in' thing, with pharmacies having 'kits' ready. However, let me stress that I'm not a medico or an alternative type medico. Just my experience. :)

terra
Aug 18th, 2005, 10:08 PM
Hey Steph!

I found the article while searching for a natural home-remedy for hay-fever allergies.

I've been thinking about trying a fast/detox ever since becoming vegan, so I may be doing one pretty soon...especially if my allergies get worse.

Let me know if you're going to go ahead with it....we can help eachother out...like Eve said; It's a good idea to have someone to keep in touch with while fasting.

:)

Wishin986
Aug 19th, 2005, 03:03 AM
The longest water (or well w/ Green Tea) fast I've ever done has been 81 hours which is a little over 3 days. You get a little lightheaded and dizzy at times and you tend to be really tired after a while because your body is basically running on empty, literally. Also come off of it slowly, I would suggest fruits and veggies or something of the like for a day or two because otherwise you might overload and your body also won't be adjusted back yet to solids. I've read places that fasting a day once a month is suppose to be good for you but that just could be those random trends that don't really have any scientifical research to back it up. Hope some of this information helped? :o

Roxy
Aug 19th, 2005, 03:12 AM
Hey Ileana!

I found this one to be pretty helpful...

fasting & detox (http://www.althealth.co.uk/services/info/misc/fasting1.php)

I hope it helps!

Please let me know how it goes or what else you've found to be useful!

:)

Thanks Terra - that was a very informative website. I would love to try a fast sometime (or a juice regimen ;) because I don't think I could last on water alone), but I'm afraid that I just wouldn't have the will-power to do it.

ConsciousCuisine
Aug 19th, 2005, 03:22 AM
Thanks Terra - that was a very informative website. I would love to try a fast sometime (or a juice regimen ;) because I don't think I could last on water alone), but I'm afraid that I just wouldn't have the will-power to do it.


Girl, you eat sooo little, a fast should be fairly easy for you ;)

Roxy
Aug 19th, 2005, 03:29 AM
LOL - you really think that?

I think I eat a lot. And mostly the wrong foods. I am slowly training myself to eat a healthier diet.

When fasting - say a juice fast - is it wise to take time off work and other activities or is it quite easy to keep soldiering on?

terra
Aug 19th, 2005, 06:40 AM
Hey Roxy!

I don't have much knowledge with fasting, but I think how your body reacts to a fast will have a lot to do with your current eating habits, as well as your physical and mental abilities.

I also think preparing a few days ahead of time will help you cope with the change. Consuming a lot of raw fruit & veggies, tons of water and liquids right before the fast would be a good way to go.

You mentioned that you eat a lot and mostly the wrong kinds of food... (I get like that too ;)) But as long as you're getting on the right track and beginning a healthier diet, I think you should be fine.

You're vegan...so that's a great start!

As long as your job isn't too physically demanding, continuing on should be alright. I believe it's good to keep moving. But if you think this may be hard on your system, consider taking the first few days off until you feel comfortable.

As for not having the will-power to do it, just consider the good that it will be doing for your system and how much more revived you will feel afterwards.

Maybe it will be a good way to help you begin your healthier diet... almost like a fresh start! :)

As for me, I'm trying to prepare myself to start a juice regimen for next week.
I am going to start with the juice because this is my first time. Water might be something that I will consider further down the road.

So Roxy...maybe we can be keep daily logs or something like that on what we do, what we consume and how it effects us so that other beginners can have something to go by! :)

Sorry for the looooong post...

But I do want to stress a few more things to anyone who is reading this -

I'm not an expert AT ALL and my suggestions are just an opinion.

Fasting isn't for everyone.

I'm not looking to lose weight, I just want to rid my body of the toxins that I have built up over the years of neglect.

Do your own research and find out what's good for you and your situation.

Please be wise about fasting and take everything about your body and mind into consideration.

Sorry everyone... I get scared sometimes that it can have an ill effect on someone. I would hate to hear of that...

Veganful, Steph & Roxy... let me know what you think or if you are planning to start. And if you have started, I would love to know how it's going! :)

Eve, Wishin or anyone else - do you have any tips for us beginners?

Again, sorry about the long post... It's my 4th post on veganforum and I got a bit excited!! :)

Wishin986
Sep 11th, 2005, 11:59 PM
My dad just came off of a detox and raved about it. He just drank organic fruit juices for a week and then the next week only ate organic fruit. After that I think it opens up to eating anything organic. He said it made him feel incredible and was so happy he did it.

Lately I see to have been getting sick a lot and also having allergic reactions. In general, my body has seemed a bit... off. So starting tomorrow I'm going to give it a go. I just went out and bought a bunch of organic fruit juices that are not from concentrate and that have no added suger. We'll see how it goes!

On the Coast
Sep 12th, 2005, 12:25 AM
For anybody ready to fast and wanting to really change things, there is a great 10 day fast, called the Master Cleanser (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=the+Master+Cleanser&btnG=Google+Search), which is absolutely amazing. You have to do at least ten days, but can go as many more as you feel comfortable with (my Father holds the family record with 28 days, and my personal record is 16). Everyone in my family has done this fast, and I now do it at least once a year. My Father dropped hid blood pressure by almost 100 points, and I once lost 14 lbs. in 16 days.
Anyhoo, this fast is not for the feint of heart, and is recomended for Toxemia and buildup in the liver, kidneys, and GI tract. It consists of a lemonade you make from whole lemons and/or limes, cayenne pepper, and whole grade molasses or maple syrup (molasses is recomended for diabetics). You can drink as much of the lemonade as you want, though there is a minimum requirement, and it is also recomended that you drink a mild laxative tea a couple of times a day. The catch is, that you ca'nt have anything else except water. That means no food, juice, cigarettes, alchohol, caffeine, etc. I recomend being close to a toilet the first few days also. If you make it, you will most likely want to go more than ten days, and it is absolutely amazing, the changes in your body, mind, spirit, and skin, after the 4th or 5th day.
Highly recomended.:)

Cranberry
Sep 13th, 2005, 04:16 AM
Gary Null's book "The Ultimate Lifetime Diet" is really a great place to start. It covers everything in there.

He is big on juicing greens, but warns to detox slowly. If you try to rid yourself of junk to quickly you will tax your organs.

So do your body a favor and take it easy.
Remember, we didn't become toxic over night.



Best of health to ya!:D

eve
Sep 18th, 2005, 11:02 AM
There was a two-page article in the Australian Sunday Mail today on the detoxing of Morgan Spurlock - the "Super Size Me" guy. His wife Alex Jamieson, who is vegan, sorted him out after that horrible experience of eating Big Macs for 30 days, and Alex has written the book called "The Great American Detox Diet".

Tangerine
Nov 7th, 2005, 04:01 PM
It was only very recently that I watched "Supersize Me." Am I the only one that found Morgan Spurlock to be incredibly irritating?


Im glad you said "irritating" I thought you were gonna say something like "hot" or "delicious" lol... I was nervous for a minute there:p

Tangerine
Nov 7th, 2005, 04:24 PM
I was thinking of doing a detox... are taking pills or a drink (liquid) better

I saw some advertisement for "Dual Action Cleanser" on TV ...

I dont want to spend a lot of money but I want to do something that is good for me and my body and gets rid of all the yuckys

maya
Nov 7th, 2005, 05:14 PM
We're living in an environment that's full of chemicals, toxins and pesticides, and there's no way of avoiding contact with them. A lot of those chemicals are associated with specific illnesses, like cancer. For that reason alone, everyone needs to detox. Our bodies try to protect us from dangerous material by setting it aside, surrounding it with mucous or fat so it won't cause imbalance or trigger an immune reaction. (Your body stores foreign substances in its fatty deposits-a significant reason to keep your diet and body fat low. Some people carry around up to 15 extra pounds of mucous that harbors this waste!) Blah!




I don't ever detox, my foods are good enough for me, and I can't see any reason for it.

maya
Nov 7th, 2005, 08:42 PM
Daily detox tea.

LittleNellColumbia
Nov 7th, 2005, 09:43 PM
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Tangerine
Nov 8th, 2005, 12:39 AM
Do you mean "fasting" as in not eating... so not eating for 22 or 10 days? is that possible??


I went to the veggie store today and there were tons detox products but I didnt know what to get.

if anyone could give me some good ones... then I'll be on the look out for them

LittleNellColumbia
Nov 8th, 2005, 12:43 AM
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Tangerine
Nov 8th, 2005, 02:24 AM
seriously?? dont you get weak... is that healthy to fast that long???

Wishin986
Nov 8th, 2005, 02:26 AM
I personally love to detox and to fast, if give my body a whole new awareness of taste, smell, etc. Also, as i am still exploring new foods, its a good way to get rid of some thing my body may not have agreed with.:)

The longest i have fasted was for 22 days, im going to do anouther fast tomorrow for 10 days, then one in the new year, but not for as long.

Im not sure if i do it properly, as far as supplements go etc. can anyone help me out please? I'd like to do a water fast:)

Fasting can be done in a number of different ways. Water fasts I personally think are most beneficial bc I don't really feel like I'm fasting if I'm doing a juice, or if fruit or veggie raw one, apple, grape, soup, oatmeal, any other fasts like those although those are seasonal fasts that can be good.

I was reading what fasts are good for each season:

Fall: grape fasts
Winter: soup
Spring: apple
Summer: fruits I think

Anyways sometimes I add green tea for metabolic reasons and slight energy, or depending on length if I have to maybe coffee for energy although I would rather not.

Vitamins wouldn't be a bad idea either so that you keep your nutrients up and decrease deficiencies.

Like I said I'm on a 11 day one till Thanksgiving Break when I go home - started 8:20 this morning. Good luck! :)

Tangerine
Nov 8th, 2005, 02:29 AM
so basically ... you dont really eat food... you may drink them...

so no food just drinking liquids for a few days... is this a good way to loose a little weight.. and it flushes out stuff in your system too?

treehugga
Nov 8th, 2005, 02:53 AM
Doesn't make sense to me to fast completely. I have seen documentaries where peoples organs have begun to shut down - now that can't be good :( due to fasting. I think if your diet is rich in organic fruits and veg etc there should be no reason to fast/cleanse. Although I think some meateaters could probably do with it.

It would be dangerous to do this if you had health issues, pregnant or breastfeeding, low in iron, hypoglycemia plus heaps more. You would need to see a health professional before undertaking this I would imagine.

Our brains, hearts and other organs need constnat nutritian to function well.

LittleNellColumbia
Nov 8th, 2005, 03:01 AM
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treehugga
Nov 8th, 2005, 03:07 AM
I suppose it won't kill you if your in good health, but many people do have health issues and I think they should seek professional advice before doing this or it could be dangerous. I would especially be concerned re people who have had eating disorders as some on this forum have, undertaking a fast or detox without professional advice. I don't think our bodies were made to go without food for a month and I don't see many members of the animal kingdom fasting for long periods (not by choice anyway).

Tigerlily
Nov 8th, 2005, 03:11 AM
I don't want to sound rude, but 22 days of not eating does not sound healthy at all. :confused: