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StmpyElephant
Nov 29th, 2005, 06:21 AM
I did the master cleanse for four days (the minimum is ten) and it nearly killed me, lol. I had the worst constriction taking place in my chest and my heart was beating so rapidly. It was an interesting experience though.

foxytina_69
Nov 29th, 2005, 10:41 AM
our bodies are great at cleansing themselves yes, but its hard to do it fully and naturally when were always stuffing ourselves of food :D

if you give your body a break every now and then of not eating, your body can focus on healing and cleansing itself, rather than simply digesting food. i dont think its completely necessary to use products to cleanse us, instead, just fast for a little while drinking only pure water w/ lemon, or do a juice fast with freshly juiced veggies/fruits, and its amazing what our bodies will do for us when they have the opportunity to cleanse themselves. i like to do a fast every change of season. just a day or two.

ofcourse, there are always things you can take to aid in helping your body cleanse itself, but if you are healthy, they arent always needed.

ive been on a couple detoxes in the past year, with detox medications, to help cleanse my liver since im on alot of prescription meds. in that kindof situation, i think its perfectly great to use a detox helper.

Seaside
Nov 29th, 2005, 06:12 PM
our bodies are great at cleansing themselves yes, but its hard to do it fully and naturally when were always stuffing ourselves of food :D


I agree, foxytina. Our bodies were designed to get us through periods of famine, and we didn't develop the systems we have today while stuffing ourselves with food three times a day on a daily basis. When animals become ill, the first thing they do is stop eating to devote their energy to healing.

We also did not have all the chemicals in the drinking water, air, and food we have today. Our livers are designed to be the cleansers of our bodies, but we are putting too great a burden on them with all the voluntary and involuntary chemical ingestion that takes place today.

We don't necessarily need herbs to assist our bodies, but I know I trust herbs a lot more than I trust medical opinions on health and healing gained from being educated in schools who get their funding from pharmaceutical companies. I can't think of any industry larger than this one, which profits off maintaining illness by relieving symptoms, rather than assisting the body to heal itself.

veggiegirl3
Jan 16th, 2006, 08:41 PM
<Morgan Spurlocks wife written a detox diet book. Following her husbands supersize me diet. She said on his third week his liver was like pate !!!!!.
She is a vegan so the book should be interesting?. The Book is called Detox Diet.>

I'm reading it now. I like it a lot. She encourages people to stop eating all animal products (except for honey, which I don't think she mentions), caffeine, refined sugar, and to drink more water.

She is vegan herself, but you're right, she is not a "vegan chef" but sometimes catters to vegan customers.

It basically emphasises having a healthy lifestyle, which I like. It's a good book. Also, check out SKINNY BITCH, which talks about that stuff, but goes into the ethics of veganism a little bit. The title is a brilliant marketing technique, as the book has much more to do with health than weight loss, and it was written to help stop cruelty to animals.

Tigerlily
Jan 16th, 2006, 11:49 PM
Maybe I'm not getting it, but I don't understand how not eating is suppose to make you feel better? Doesn't your body need the nutrients and calories to function?

veggiegirl3
Jan 17th, 2006, 12:05 AM
Oh, no! You are definately supposed to eat! Those two books (and probably others) emphasise not eating crap that harms your body and eating more unprocessed, nutritious food.

Tigerlily
Jan 17th, 2006, 01:01 AM
Oh but what about those who are doing water fasts or juice 'fasts'?

GoodbyeGirl
Mar 28th, 2006, 06:50 AM
i have recently stopped eating dairy products and i want to clean any yucky animal residue out of my body. i have been looking up a lot of detox/cleansing websites and i've gotten a couple of books. there are so many stories and photos of people with lots of worms or huge worms being expelled from their bodies when they do a cleanse. does this really happen very often? are most of us really walking around with a bunch of worms living in our digestive tracts? how do you find out if you have any?

Cairidh
Mar 28th, 2006, 07:04 AM
i have recently stopped eating dairy products and i want to clean any yucky animal residue out of my body. i have been looking up a lot of detox/cleansing websites and i've gotten a couple of books. there are so many stories and photos of people with lots of worms or huge worms being expelled from their bodies when they do a cleanse. does this really happen very often? are most of us really walking around with a bunch of worms living in our digestive tracts? how do you find out if you have any?

everybody has parasites :(
I've tried two different cleansing thingydodahs that are supposed to get rid of worms but none came out of me :(
they're hard to get rid of

I did find that the thing that cleansed my insides the most (not of parasites but of nasty food residues) was a 100% fruit diet - I don't recommend it, you'll get deficient, but a week long cleanse of mostly raw fruit plus green smoothies (50% fruit, 50% leafy greens) and raw coconut would give your insides a good clean out :)
green smoothies are fantastic at um.....getting you to go....:o
and the fat in raw coconut binds with toxins and escorts them out of the body.

DianeVegan
Mar 28th, 2006, 09:02 AM
i have recently stopped eating dairy products and i want to clean any yucky animal residue out of my body. i have been looking up a lot of detox/cleansing websites and i've gotten a couple of books. there are so many stories and photos of people with lots of worms or huge worms being expelled from their bodies when they do a cleanse. does this really happen very often? are most of us really walking around with a bunch of worms living in our digestive tracts? how do you find out if you have any?
Hi GoodbyeGirl,

There are certainly a lot of books and websites for "detoxing" these days. If you read any of my past posts I explain why I am not a fan. Are we walking around with worms in our digestive tracts in the U.S.? Not if you are one of the majority drinking treated/clean water. You would have a good idea if you were infested with worms, and you would most likely be losing weight.

As for the animal "residue," I wouldn't worry. With the constant turnover of cells in your GI tract, nothing remains for long - there is nothing for it to stick to despite what these books and websites state.

Also, if you want to truly "detox" your body then you will need to drink pure water (distilled, NOT filtered or spring water) and breathe pure air (this would be extremely expensive and I don't even know where you could find air without any toxins these days). I am sure the books and websites don't mention air and water (only distilled water is pure unless you are lucky enough to find an old iceberg) because they really focus on detoxing via the GI tract, fasting, supplements. There is a huge money-making industry that has grown out of this idea.

So please "detox" if you think you must but don't worry that you are missing out on anything if you don't.

Aylish
Apr 1st, 2006, 12:54 AM
I have little red zit like things on my arms and thighs. Not a lot, but I typically don't get acne or bumps on my body (just a little on my face). I became vegan 3 weeks ago, and before that was a veggie reliant on dairy. Is this a detox thing?

Otherwise I feel great!

tipsy
Apr 1st, 2006, 01:23 AM
could very well be!

the skin is one of the biggest detox organs!

:D

tabitha
Apr 1st, 2006, 07:58 AM
I have little red zit like things on my arms and thighs. Not a lot, but I typically don't get acne or bumps on my body (just a little on my face). I became vegan 3 weeks ago, and before that was a veggie reliant on dairy. Is this a detox thing?

Otherwise I feel great!

Can you body brush them or are they sore?

Tiggerwoo
Apr 1st, 2006, 10:33 AM
Acne is your skin purging itself generallly (in adulthood anyway, teenage may be hormonal) of toxins, so I'm sure they are detox related. The body will try to get rid of toxins from the easiest path possible, and if the liver, bowels, kidneys etc are already working hard, then the skin will take the remaining burden.

Carry on the good work, the symptoms will lessen. What I would say is drink lots of good quality water, skin brush as Tabi says as this stimulates the lymphatic system, if you can get a mini trampoline to do some rebounding.... usually around &#163;20 from Ebay, and eat alot of fresh fruits/veg....... try juicing this will all help. Also if you have access to a sauna at a gym a few times a week or steam, this will speed the process up to sweat the rubbish out. Alternatively try a couple of epsom salt baths per week..... they draw the baddies out, but it must be a hot bath for say 20-30 mins.

tabitha
Apr 1st, 2006, 10:41 AM
Tiggerwoos, you should DEFINITELY quit your day job (or night job in your case). You are so good at this sort of thing! We could start up a business. You could do the nutrition and I could do the personal training.

Tiggerwoo
Apr 1st, 2006, 11:10 AM
Tiggerwoos, you should DEFINITELY quit your day job (or night job in your case). You are so good at this sort of thing! We could start up a business. You could do the nutrition and I could do the personal training.

Thanks, intend on doing so when I qualify, will be setting up the reiki bit at the end of the year hopefully and the naturopathic bit in about 4 years, but alot of my info, came from research when I was ill myself.

Good idea about us going into business together....... now what could we call it?!

tabitha
Apr 1st, 2006, 11:12 AM
TiggerTab.? TabbyTig?. Sounds like a cat rescue home!! - Lets do that instead!!!

Tiggerwoo
Apr 1st, 2006, 11:14 AM
He he......... can just imagine it........ would be gluttons for punnishment, what with you working at the cattery and me at the bunny and guinea rescue!:D

Aylish
Apr 1st, 2006, 05:46 PM
Thanks very much everyone. It seems to be going away. But I do have a body brush. I'll give it a go.

A

riotgurl
Jun 17th, 2006, 12:13 AM
My BF and I are starting a fast tomorrow. We're doing a 3 day juice fast then a 10 day water fast and then 3 more days of juice. I'm really looking forward to it but at the same time I'm worried. I've fasted before but never for that long. Any tips?

DianeVegan
Jun 20th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Well, my tip would be to never water fast but there is a thread here (http://www.veganforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9506)that may give you some advice.:)

foxytina_69
Jun 20th, 2006, 02:26 PM
diane, all of the detox books ive read HAVE included information about the air, water, etc.

riotgurl, if youve never fasted before, 10 days of water fasting is quite a long time to fast!

riotgurl
Jun 20th, 2006, 09:32 PM
I've fasted before. Just never that long and with only water. ;\
Today was the first day of just water.

eve
Jun 21st, 2006, 09:09 AM
just be aware that when you come off the fast, you will gain weight because your body will start preparing for the next 'famine', and will retain every single gram that you eat! Good luck riotgurl :)

foxytina_69
Jun 21st, 2006, 09:28 AM
yes, and you have to come off them extremely slowly!! (but you already knew that riotgurl!) good luck riotgurl!

my naturopath is putting me on a detox starting thursday!