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DianeVegan
Aug 19th, 2005, 03:13 AM
From a Newsweek interview with Rachel McAdams (August 22, 2005) - she of "Wedding Crashers" and "The Notebook" movie fame.

Newsweek: But aren't you a vegetarian?

Rachel: No. I was for a couple years, but I just got so tired. I fell asleep during a Chris Rock concert once - I was, like, front row, center - and after that I said, "I've got to go back on meat." I need some iron. But I try to stay away from the baby animals.



I put this in the Not A Vegan Yet section to illustrate the misconceptions that new vegans and non-vegans may have. If we dissect this answer we can see the misunderstandings clearly.

First - I got so tired. Hmmmm, omnivores never get tired? What WERE you eating, not what were you NOT eating would have been my question. Were you trying to survive on junk food, sugar, white flour, salad?

Second - I fell asleep during a concert. Hey, I fell asleep on dates back in my 20's when I was working and going to college. Meat didn't seem to keep me awake. I am sure most/many people who fall asleep in public are omnivores.

Third - I need some iron. What about plant sources or supplements (which many menstruating women are advised to take regardless of diet). I am a vegan who donates blood 3-4 times per year as well as menstruating. I also lift weights 6 days a week and bike. Obviously you don't need meat for iron.

Fourth - I try to stay away from the baby animals. You TRY? Why not just stay away? What's wrong with the babies - not enough iron? Or is it the age thing? A cow at slaughter is the equivalent of an 8 to 9 year old human child (7.5 to 10% of its natural lifespan). Would we consider that child to have lived a long enough life and not get upset if she dies? Or is it only animals that don't deserve to live past childhood?

These are invalid points that Rachel gives. She does all vegetarians and vegans a disservice by blaming lack of meat for her problems. These are the same uneducated arguements that new vegans hear from omnivores all the time.

Anyone new to veganism should learn more about nutrition; not because veganism is nutritionally lacking but because an omnivore diet masks bad eating habits in the short run, allowing people to eat poorly and only pay the price in later years. If you go vegan and have problems then look at what is missing from your diet (whole grains, beans, legumes?) or what needs to be cut out (white flour, sugar, junk food?). What's missing is not meat. If we truly needed to eat meat then this forum wouldn't exist. We are all living proof that a plant based diet is healthy if it is balanced.

Artichoke47
Aug 19th, 2005, 03:23 AM
Cut her some slack - she's a meat-eater and therefore deficient in fiber and Vitamin C. If she were a vegetarian, she wouldn't make such stupid statements.

adam antichrist
Aug 19th, 2005, 03:35 AM
Cut her some slack - she's a meat-eater and therefore deficient in fiber and Vitamin C. If she were a vegetarian, she wouldn't make such stupid statements.

:D

Roxy
Aug 19th, 2005, 04:38 AM
From a Newsweek interview with Rachel McAdams (August 22, 2005) - she of "Wedding Crashers" and "The Notebook" movie fame.

Newsweek: But aren't you a vegetarian?

Rachel: No. I was for a couple years, but I just got so tired. I fell asleep during a Chris Rock concert once - I was, like, front row, center - and after that I said, "I've got to go back on meat." I need some iron. But I try to stay away from the baby animals.





Her whole answer makes her sound like a very unintelligent person - the last sentence in particular!

ConsciousCuisine
Aug 19th, 2005, 04:41 AM
:eek: What.A.Stupid.B*tch.

FR
Aug 19th, 2005, 05:00 AM
Cut her some slack - she's a meat-eater and therefore deficient in fiber and Vitamin C. If she were a vegetarian, she wouldn't make such stupid statements.

:)

Good one.

my3labs
Aug 19th, 2005, 06:38 AM
That really pisses me off! What an ignorant statement she made.

Monkey Wild
Aug 19th, 2005, 06:57 AM
UGH! That pisses me off to no end, too.

So misguided, and unfortunately so typical. :mad:

FR
Aug 19th, 2005, 07:37 AM
Very good points, Dianecrna.

Kevster
Aug 19th, 2005, 10:17 AM
How does she stay away from baby animals?

DianeVegan
Aug 19th, 2005, 10:26 AM
Kevster, she just tries to stay away. I especially loved that one. It's like people who try to eat right and try to exercise and try to stop cheating on their spouse and try to ......... Just do it!

eve
Aug 19th, 2005, 10:27 AM
Great post Dianecrna, and set out simply enough for anyone to get the points made.

DianeVegan
Aug 19th, 2005, 10:36 AM
Thanks Eve! That's why I posted it here. I heard these same lame excuses from previous vegetarians when I went vegan.

screamingcarrot
Aug 19th, 2005, 11:26 AM
great post..i agree 100%
makes me mad though because shes the kind of person who gets the coverage and spreads the wrong message..making things harder for the rest of us!

chons
Aug 19th, 2005, 12:59 PM
Guess she was to stoopid to realise she couldv'e got iron from elsewhere than meat.

Its a shame that people tend to listen to celebrities more than anyone else these days.

cedarblue
Aug 19th, 2005, 02:50 PM
why try to stay away from baby animals????? - they're sooooo cute ;)

strawberry
Aug 19th, 2005, 04:14 PM
haha agreed Cedar, so cute ;)

SurfNSun
Aug 19th, 2005, 05:20 PM
You go Dianecrna!!! I always enjoy listening to your thoughts. I had just started liking Rachel McAdams....how sad to hear her sound so foolish... She should stick to making movies and not giving advice about vegetarianism.

P.S. Dianecrna, the big fella on your shoulder is beautiful http://veganforum.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif I bet he's quite a handful http://veganforum.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

DianeVegan
Aug 20th, 2005, 03:55 AM
Oh Surf, you don't know the half of it! He is about 7 now so his hormones are racing. He is a rescue bird or I wouldn't have him, but he still only knows that he wants a mate NOW. Poor guy. The rest of the family puts up with him but would not miss him - I look at it like adopting a child. I figure in about 3 years he'll calm down to almost bearable! ;)

As an aside, my sister (who is now pregnant and giving up meat and dairy :D ) just got an earful from her father-in-law last night about how much meat eating has done for our society! She'll be joining the forum soon.

SurfNSun
Aug 20th, 2005, 06:14 AM
Oh Surf, you don't know the half of it! He is about 7 now so his hormones are racing.

As an aside, my sister (who is now pregnant and giving up meat and dairy http://veganforum.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif ) just got an earful from her father-in-law last night about how much meat eating has done for our society! She'll be joining the forum soon.

http://veganforum.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif I never knew bird's hormones did that!! http://veganforum.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif That is so good to hear about your sister! That is sad about her father-in-law though http://veganforum.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif Hopefully she will keep her chin up and stay encouraged having you there for her http://veganforum.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

my3labs
Aug 20th, 2005, 07:17 AM
Dianecrna, I'm excited to meet your sister and welcome a new member!

Sweets
Aug 20th, 2005, 08:16 AM
i remember when i was younger i got faint and thought it was because i needed meat... turns out when you actually learn about nutrition, you cant survive off of bagels, muffins and donuts! i was a bad vegetarian... but rachel (haha thats my name too) just hasnt learned yet about proper nutrition, i dont hate her for making these comments.