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Jobey
Feb 4th, 2005, 02:55 PM
Whilst not a strict vegan (yet) Ive always been vegie and have avoided leather and other animal products as much as possible. I am sitting on a leather chair right now however. My mums work were throwing it away and its perfectly good so I grabbed it, Id rather not have it but seeing as it was going into the skip and eventually incinerated or chucked in landfill I dont feel too guilty about it.

Tigerlily
Feb 4th, 2005, 04:41 PM
Clothing at first, was an issue for me. My brand new jacket that I bought right before becoming vegan is down filled (feather stuffed). I didn't know that at the time and when I did, I felt horrible. But the store had a FINAL SALE policy so I couldn't do anything about it. Next year my winter jacket is going to be synthetic. My shoes are leather. I bought them in the summer and right now I don't have a lot of money so I'm going to wear them until they wear out so I can buy nice synthetic kinds. I got rid of my leather belts (they needed to be replaced anyway) and I started using my plastic and canvas material belts again.

Soaps and shampoos. Ah. I have replaced my soaps and I recently bought some Aubrey Organics vegan shampoo. I have VERY VERY umanagble and dry kinky curly hair. My hair products like leave in conditioners and gels aren't vegan but some aren't tested on animals which is a step in the right direction. I can't buy online and I don't really know what vegan hair products I can use. I might just stick with the ones that are at least not tested on animals for now until I figure something out.

Someday, like when I move out on my own and start making money, I want become 100% cruetly free and enviromentally friendly. :) I'll buy organic and eco-friendly soaps and cleaning products, fresh organic produce with my own little garden too....everything. Right now, living in an omni home, little things like that are hard to control especially when you have no money and you're family doesn't care too much for "compasionate" things. :(

Camyle26
Feb 4th, 2005, 04:57 PM
I think some benefits to being vegan are less bad cholesterol (if any at all), a more ethical lifestyle, less saturated fat (bad fat)... there are so many healthy aspects to being vegan, granted you get the proper nutrition and supplements.

I'd love to chat further... if you're interested in health benefits... I know everyone is more concerned with the leather, clothing issue... but there are definitely nutrition issues related to being vegan. Organic is a big must; because if all you are eating is a plant-based diet, you don't want to take in all those pesticides...

gertvegan
Feb 4th, 2005, 05:10 PM
Have a read of as many other threads Camyle26, and use the search for a certain topic. Chances are what you wanna talk about, is here somewhere and can always be added to. ;)

Camyle26
Feb 4th, 2005, 05:12 PM
Tx :)

Aurora
Feb 4th, 2005, 05:40 PM
I still have a leather pair of winter boots and a winter jacket which has wool in it, but I did get rid of all my leather handbags/belts to the charity shop and I am getting vegan 'beauty' products as mine run out (cosmetics mostly, I have always tried to have cruelty free creams, soaps etc) I do agree with a previous post that mentioned that the animal died for the goods to be made so don't let it have died in vain and wear the stuff until it is totally worn out and then don't buy any more!

I do wish I lived nearer a vegan shoe shop though 'cos I don't want to buy on line in case they don't fit and the 'cheapy' shoes don't really last :( . Maybe next time I go to Brighton I will treat myself to a couple of pairs ;)

gertvegan
Feb 4th, 2005, 05:50 PM
Maybe next time I go to Brighton I will treat myself to a couple of pairs ;)And meet a gorilla perhaps.

Aurora
Feb 4th, 2005, 05:57 PM
That would be nice! :) As longs as it's the one from the forum :p

VitaminB
Apr 22nd, 2005, 02:28 AM
I am a vegan for the most part except once in a while when I have to eat cheese in order to eat(I have to eat at a college dining center so it is harder for me than most people...long and horrific story). Anyways, I have some leather and one peice of fur clothing....i am not sure what i should do about it when i finally make the final leap into strict veganism. so about those peices of death......what should i do? Should i keep it and put it to it's full usage? I have though about burying it as though I was giving the animal a proper burial. I think it would be a waste if i threw the stuff away because other people who are less fortunate could use it and because then the animal died for literally nothing. i just dont want to tell people i am vegan and then look like a hypocrit for wearing skin and hair! so guys....give me your advice. you all seem hip and pretty idealistic when it comes to issues so i would love to hear your lovely opinions. Thanks!

Peace, Court
p.s. i am new!!!!!!!!

snivelingchild
Apr 22nd, 2005, 02:37 AM
If the fur is a full fur coat instead of something that had fur on it, you can donate it to PETA and they give them to the homeless. The rest I would suggest donating. Others can get a good use of them and you don't have to be bothered with the idea of having it around.

veganblue
Apr 22nd, 2005, 02:53 AM
I have one pair of walking shoes that are over 15 years old and from my pre-vego days, and are leather. All the others I replaced and dispensed with as they either wore out or I felt uncomfortable using them.

Obviously the choice is yours and you should do what feels best by your conscience. There is the issue of passive promotion of fur by using it, and sometimes people will question you about what you are using. The important thing is that you aren't increasing the demand by replacing with animal products and also you will probbly feel better for it when the last leather/fur things are gone.

Welcome to the forum! You have my sympathy as I was vegan at the age of 17 when my parents sent me to boarding school and my food choices were limited to a nutritionally unbalanced vegan option or the vegetarian offerings. It was uncomfortable but the first six months of veganism went by the wayside while I had little control of my diet for the next few years. I went mainly vegan when I left school and was able to look after my own diet choices until I became a committed vegan.

Don't beat yourself up about it; but you can look at the options and suggest to your college diner some healthy easy vegan alternatives. I wish I knew what I do now so that I could have done it way back when I was in school.

Peas'nHominy
Apr 22nd, 2005, 03:47 AM
Welcome, VitaminB :D

Perhaps you should not wear it, for your conscious and to avoid giving mixed signals. (But please don't go to class without any shoes...or naked! :eek: :D )

Maybe consider if what you would give to the homeless is pricey. A very dear friend of mine heads up a ministry which helps the homeless, and she use to be homeless herself. She told me that if it's something expensive, some will not use it except to sell it for drug money. IF that were to happen, I don't think it would be the good offering you intended.

If it's expensive, maybe give it to an omni relative? Or maybe sell it and give the money to your favorite animal rights group?

If it's not pricey, I would give it for the poor.

imo :)

TheFirstBus
Apr 22nd, 2005, 03:50 AM
I have a couple things that don't meet the vegan standerds from my pre-vegan day and I will wear them till I can replace them.

snivelingchild
Apr 22nd, 2005, 04:48 AM
That's what I WAS going to do with my shoes, but I started to be sickened every time I look in my closet. There are actually one pair of RenFest costume boots I have yet to sell. I think I will list them on Ebay. The reason I've had them so long is that I didn't like looking at them, so they've been in the back of a storage closet, so I kept forgetting to sell them.

Cal
Apr 22nd, 2005, 05:41 AM
Welcome VitaminB. :)

I got rid of all my non-vegan stuff pretty well straight away except for a couple of things like my dog's woollen blankets which I had to find a replacement for first (but since she was still eating non-vegan food at the time it seemed a bit silly!). I had been getting rid of leather gear from the time I turned veggie so that was no big deal. I donated my stuff to charities.

tails4wagging
Apr 22nd, 2005, 05:44 AM
My leather shoes I either dumped, or gave them to a charity shop. Never owned fur.

The only wool thing I have is an old woolly cardigan that an elderly aunt made. For sentimental reasons I wear it at times. But when thats gone thats it, no more animal clothing in my wardrobe..

I would suggest burning the fur coat!?

Cal
Apr 22nd, 2005, 05:52 AM
I would suggest burning the fur coat!?
A very tempting idea, though not very environmentally friendly?! :D

tails4wagging
Apr 22nd, 2005, 06:01 AM
Give it to your dragon Cal!!!! :) .

Best then to bury it!!.

effulgent
Apr 24th, 2005, 04:35 AM
I have wide feet with problems (ingrown toenails, etc), and have worn nothing but Birkenstocks since I bought my first pair a year ago. The only problem is, most of them have either leather tops or suede liners or both. The two pair I had were both leather uppers and suede liners.

I had to go shopping for shoes because the soles of one pair of my Birkenstocks were worn down and I had to get them resoled. (They won't be fixed until May 1). I had to have a pair of shoes to wear while they were in the repair shop being resoled. I tried on the non-leather shoes at the Birkenstock store, but the ones that fit me best and were most appropriate for work dress were a pair of sandals that were synthetic patent leather uppers, but suede liner. So I got them. I did the best I could. :(

So I tried. Next time, I'll get online and see if I can get any totally synthetic Birkenstock's that are a good style for me, but I just didn't have the time to wait for them to come in this time. My soles of my old shoes were about worn down to the cork, and I didn't want it to wear to the cork and ruin the shoes.

I have no fur, and the only leather I have is my shoes and my purse (purse bought pre-vegan). I'll keep the purse until it falls apart, and then I'll get a Vy & Elle (http://www.vyandelle.com/main.htm) purse. I'm a vegan for environmental reasons, so to me it is wasteful to throw away a leather purse just so I can carry a non-vegan one. But, trust me when I say this, I think about the animal that the leather came from every time I pick up my purse. I may get to the point where I can't bear to carry the purse anymore.

Tigerlily
Apr 25th, 2005, 12:53 PM
What's everyone's opinion on second hand wool?

Next year, I'm going to need a new jacket and I would like to get a more stylish, double breasted type jacket that mainly comes in a wool blend.

What's your opinion on buying this second hand and does anyone know where I can get a jacket like this made from polyester/cotton/etc?

Melina
May 14th, 2005, 09:10 PM
I started eating vegan about 3 weeks ago. But I guess I am not a vegan because I am still wearing my old shoes which have leather in them and the expensive leather jacket my husband bought me a few months ago. And while I plan to do my best from now on to buy only vegan cosmetics & shoes in the future, I am still finishing off my old shampoos and using my old make-up which is not vegan. The change in my diet occured when I realized that I do not support cruelty towards animals and I must reflect this in my actions. So should I throw away the shampoos and mascara and shoes and get rid of the jacket and then go out and buy everything new? Have any of you been in a situation like this? What did you do?

tails4wagging
May 14th, 2005, 09:14 PM
I only have one old wool cardigan that has sentimental value, when thats gone, its gone. I have thrown away all other leather goods. My make up is cruelty free and has been for years.

Happiness
May 14th, 2005, 09:21 PM
melina - I'm in the same boat as you just a bit further along. I've been vegan for roughly 3-4 months? And I still have products that I have to use up. My indoor soccer shoes have leather and I still have my old make-up. My take on it is that since you've already aquired these things prior to become vegan then go ahead and use them up but just dont replenish them in the future. I'm a little wishy-washy on the leather jacket though. Its a pretty large piece of clothing that stands out. You might run into some people who dont take you seriously as a vegan while you wear it or you might send the wrong message about veganism. Its a personal choice though. Personally the smell of leather grosses me out. Uck.

DianeVegan
May 14th, 2005, 10:35 PM
I think you should use all your old products, clothing, shoes, etc. until you would normally throw them away. That is much more environmentally sound than replacing everything right now. The jacket is up to you. If you can give it as a gift or to a charity - great. If it would hurt your husband's feelings, then maybe you wear it to places that the vegan police don't attend.

Seaside
May 14th, 2005, 11:28 PM
I can't remember where it is, because I think it has been moved, or merged, or something, but there is a thread on just this subject, ie what to do with your non-vegan personal care and clothing items. :) I can't remember the title, though. :confused: