Vegan Filo in UK

[Jinny]

Hello

Could anyone tell me whether it is possible to get vegan filo in the UK (preferably without hydrogenated fat) - and where?

Many thanks

Jinny

[Poison Ivy]

Just done a quick search and according to Viva! both Jus-Rol and Asda's own brand of filo are vegan - couldn't find anything out about hydrogenated fats (or lack of) in them though - sorry!

[harpy]

Think it's generally vegan - it doesn't contain much fat at all and that is normally olive oil (but don't quote me as I don't have any in the house at the moment so can't check the packet!).

I think the Cypressa brand is OK and that is sold in some larger supermarkets (down here anyway). If you have any Greek or Turkish shops round where you are they would have it too.

[Mr Flibble]

Never had a problem getting vegan filo in UK supermarkets. Can't remember any brands off the top of my head thou, and I've no idea about non-hydrogenated.

[Pob]

I'm after filo without hydrogenated fat, too.

I looked at Jus-Roll frozen Filo and it doesn't contain hydrogenated fat, but it does contain L-Cysteine - which I believe only comes from feathers, or animal or human hair.

As I recall the Sainsbury's chilled Filo had hydrogenated fats in it :(

Waitrose do the Cypressa brand (Wheatflour (64%), Water, Vegetable Oil, Salt, Dextrose, Preservative (E202, Potassium Sorbate, E223, Sodium Metabisulphate), Maize Starch), so I may have to pay a visit in the near future :)

[Pob]

Dunno if the Sainsbury Filo has been reformulated, but it doesn't have hydrogenated fats in it and all the listed ingredients are vegan. Same ingredient list as the Cypressa brand mentioned above.

It doesn't have L-Cystein listed - though I'm pretty sure that gets sneaked into plenty of flour products without being listed. I presume on vegetarian products it must come from human hair :confused:

[dharma]

I looked at Jus-Roll frozen Filo and it doesn't contain hydrogenated fat, but it does contain L-Cysteine - which I believe only comes from feathers, or animal or human hair.
Apparently it also comes from coal tar. Presumably that's what's used in the Just Roll pastry.
http://www.veganpeace.com/ingredients/ingredients.htm

[catmogg]

Coal tar! :eek: Thats not hugely appetising...

[Pob]

Apparently it also comes from coal tar. Presumably that's what's used in the Just Roll pastry.
http://www.veganpeace.com/ingredients/ingredients.htmHadn't seen that possible source.

From what I read a lot of it seemed to be sourced from China and either made from chicken feathers or human hair(primarily human hair). I presume the human hair source would be classified as vegan.

I know there is a US company that reckons they make it from bacterial fermentation of dextrose, but I think the Chinese manufacturers still dominate the market - they must be cheaper.

[catmogg]

Heavens, what is it and why on earth is it needed??:(

[Pob]

Wikipedia has some good info on the subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cysteine

[dharma]

Coal tar! :eek: Thats not hugely appetising...
No, it isn't. Human hair doesn't sound great either (yuck!)

[Tigerlily]

Hadn't seen that possible source.

From what I read a lot of it seemed to be sourced from China and either made from chicken feathers or human hair(primarily human hair). I presume the human hair source would be classified as vegan.

I know there is a US company that reckons they make it from bacterial fermentation of dextrose, but I think the Chinese manufacturers still dominate the market - they must be cheaper.


:eek: :eek: :eek: The thought of eating human hair is disgusting!

[Cloudy]

I seem to remember Jus-Rol being listed in the Animal Free Shopper some years ago, dunno if that's the case now though...

[catmogg]

:eek: :eek: :eek: The thought of eating human hair is disgusting!

Yep, quite repulsive.

Why do they put this sort of stuff in products that should be so simple to make without? Okay, ask a silly question...:rolleyes:

[RedWellies]

:eek: :eek: :eek: The thought of eating human hair is disgusting!
Where do they get the hair? Hairdressers' floor sweepings?:p

[catmogg]

I'm close to never touching shop bought pastry again...ever. :eek:

[veggiesosage]

If its China its probably from political prisoners.

[Pob]

Where do they get the hair? Hairdressers' floor sweepings?:pI can't see where else they would get the quantity that they must need.

There was a company using that very source to make a fake soy sauce.
http://www.ispub.com/ostia/index.php?xmlFilePath=journals/ijto/vol2n1/soy.xml


Because the human hair was gathered from salon, barbershop and hospitals around the country, it was unhygienic and mixed with condom, used hospital cottons, used menstrual cycle pad, used syringe, etcImagine what happens to the pubes they shave off when someone has a vasectomy.

I don't see how l-cysteine manufactured in China can be any better. To be fair it is used in minute quantities in flour products (unlike soy sauce), so I guess toxicity would be negligible. I wouldn't want to be taking cysteine supplements, though :eek:

[catmogg]

I feel sick. :(

[dharma]

I seem to remember Jus-Rol being listed in the Animal Free Shopper some years ago, dunno if that's the case now though...
Jus-Rol is still in there. Filo pastry sheets, puff pastry blocks, puff pastry sheets, shortcrust pastry blocks, shortcrust pastry sheets and vol-au-vent cases.

I imagine the L-Cysteine used in the Jus-Rol pastry must be synthetically produced from coal tar. I can't see them using human hair :eek: Human hair isn't vegan as far as I'm concerned. I think an email to Jus-Rol is on the cards.

I suppose if you don't want to eat it, it can always be used as a toupee :D

[Cherry]

I feel sick. :(

Me too :(

[Catie]

I've got some and it says suitable for vegetarians on it but nothing about vegans and normally their labeling is good. So does anyone know if its safeor not.

I'll post the ingredients incase that'll help.

Wheat flour, Water, Veg.Oil, Salt, Dextrose, Preservitives:Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Metabisulphate, Maize starch

It seems ok, but I'm new to this so I thought I'd check.

Thanks very much

[Tigerlily]

Looks good to me.

[Catie]

Thanks!

One thing thats annoying about sainsburys labeling is they label most of their vegan stuff as vegan but then some of the vegan stuff isn't labeled and I convince myself it mustn't be safe.