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Roxy
Jun 28th, 2005, 07:27 AM
"But honey's natural" :confused:

Korn
Jun 28th, 2005, 08:13 AM
Look Here (http://veganforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3024) Cryospark :)

...and here... (http://www.veganforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=694) :)

veganator
Jun 28th, 2005, 12:58 PM
I think the best one I heard was promoting vegetarianism denies future livestock at the chance of being born. If people don't buy meat, factory farmers will not breed animals and those "potential animals" will never have a chance to live

veganator
Jun 28th, 2005, 01:06 PM
An interesting one that I heard was that a large number of small field dwelling animals ( mice ...etc ) get killed by farm machinery in harvesting crops. I think this is true. The person who pointed it out made the case that because of this vegan were still causing animals to be killed for their diets.

The obvious rejoinder( which had no effect...ie the person was a troll ) is that the majority of crops in the US go to feed livestock. The actual amount of crops needed to feed people directly is orders of magnitude less then to feed livestock.

If everyone went vegan a lot fewer crops would raised....A LOT...and a very large number of field animals would be spared.

With lot fewer crops being grown it would also be more economical and practical to come up with ways for harvesting crops without incidental deaths.

marika5
Jun 28th, 2005, 01:52 PM
The most ignorant objection? I really couldn't say. Too many to count. It's too disgusting to contemplate.

sugarmouse
Jun 28th, 2005, 03:28 PM
the all too common one stating that animals would not be alivve if we didnt eat them!!?!? WTF!!!!??/so you re breeding life to destroy it! do you have no morals?!!?
and the one my boss said to me the other day.'milks natural!!!'were meant to drink it!!


er, yes.the stuff from your mom.just liek calfs are meant to drink the stuff from THEIR mom. i personally would not want a cow feedign off my mamories.no offence blossom, but i dnt think that is natural.at all.so i wont drink yours either ;)

Franny
Jun 28th, 2005, 04:04 PM
I was told that by being a member of PETA that I would be put on the no fly list. I got the biggest laugh out of that. It still makes me chuckle.

veganator
Jun 28th, 2005, 05:11 PM
Don't laugh it is true. PETA does advocate eating flies.

tails4wagging
Jun 28th, 2005, 06:45 PM
Eh???????? :confused:

sugarmouse
Jun 29th, 2005, 02:34 PM
:confused: yeh tht!

Franny
Jun 29th, 2005, 02:43 PM
Eh???????? :confused:

I wasn't really sure either. My guess is that it's a joke? I have a bizarro sense of humor, but I didn't get that.
Veganator, please decipher for us :)

zariex
Jun 29th, 2005, 04:45 PM
"But honey's natural" :confused:

I've gotten that too !!

Nivvie
Jun 29th, 2005, 05:05 PM
As a child, my mother always told me to be kind to bees as they make honey for us.

Yes mother, for us. Of course.
How kind of them!

zariex
Jun 29th, 2005, 05:11 PM
Absolutely. I mean, who ever heard of a bee making honey for itself and the good of its hive? I know I haven't. ;)

PumpkinGuy
Jun 30th, 2005, 09:14 PM
From my bro who is on the eternal atkin's diet, when I told him I was vegan: "But that's so unhealthy."

Sorry, bro, I have no comment. OK I do.

Let that meat sit in your colon for weeks and weeks causing cancer. Let that excess protein give you gall stones. Continue murdering until you are the only species left on earth (and then what will you eat?? GMO's??)

Incidentally my brother is 6'2" and over 270 lbs and I'm a svelt 5'10" and 152 lbs. Sorry, I can't convert to metric but my BMI is 21 (I think) and he's considered obese. Nothing against obesity but how can one justify that I'm "so unhealthy?"

Wishin986
Jun 30th, 2005, 10:59 PM
'milks natural!!!'were meant to drink it!!

my friend the other night was trying to tell me that humans need milk and that its for humans to drink - it's like ok. pause. now think about what you just said and how that makes absolutely no sense. it's hard to even debate with things like that bc you can just tell that you arn't going to get very far. :rolleyes:

and i also love how the minute you say you're vegan everyone automatically thinks that you cant eat anything and that you can go anywhere out to eat with people bc you wont be able to eat anything. which couldn't be farther from the truth, for the most part i can find things to eat anywhere. :p

Robin
Jul 2nd, 2005, 07:49 PM
"But I've seen fat veg*ns so I could just as well continue to eat meat"

Right, because we're like TOTALLY doing it to get skinny.

*sigh*

greenworlds
Jul 2nd, 2005, 08:50 PM
I've had the frown with "What not even fish". And I was a bit surprized to get the rabbit food comment and the lettuce and carrot comment not so long ago.

ChocolatBlanc
Jul 2nd, 2005, 09:43 PM
My mom has made some pretty angry arguments against veganism. She keeps claiming that it's a "political diet," and I kinda wonder what she means by that, exactly. She seems to equate being vegan with being on a hunger strike (probably why she won't let me give up eggs and dairy yet). Also, she's claimed that no one exists who eats just plant-derived foods, and that any smart vegans know that they have to eat animal products every day to live. :confused:

But then, my buffoonish stepfather is just plain terrible. He doesn't believe that vegetarians of any kind exist (like, all living people eat red meat or they die). And when I got out of school for the summer, he said, "It's summer! Why would you still want to be vegetarian?! Eat some meat!" :confused: Good golly, I just had to rant about him. :mad: He doesn't even comprehend what veganism is. But this is the case of an exceptionally ignorant person. I don't hear such idiocy from anyone else I know.

greenworlds
Jul 2nd, 2005, 09:55 PM
My mom has made some pretty angry arguments against veganism. She keeps claiming that it's a "political diet," and I kinda wonder what she means by that, exactly. She seems to equate being vegan with being on a hunger strike (probably why she won't let me give up eggs and dairy yet). Also, she's claimed that no one exists who eats just plant-derived foods, and that any smart vegans know that they have to eat animal products every day to live.

I am wondering what your age is and what right does your mother have to not allow you to have a healthier diet? Also if you have a computer at home can she not look on this and another sites to see the many vegan sites around?

Kevster
Jul 2nd, 2005, 10:45 PM
'I don't believe animals have souls.'

I was without polite words to respond to that.

Liz
Jul 3rd, 2005, 01:22 AM
It's gotta be;
''What are animals for then?!''
or
''We're breaking the food chain if we don't eat meat!''
and I had this Dutch guy proclaiming that my even moving I am killing invisible life! :confused: Scary!
:rolleyes:
Some people!

greenworlds
Jul 3rd, 2005, 12:22 PM
'I don't believe animals have souls.'

I was without polite words to respond to that.

I think some vegans even think that! :eek:

TheFirstBus
Jul 10th, 2005, 12:04 AM
While out and about in my animal liberation sweater only one person bothered to read and comment on it. What was his comment you ask?? Well he felt the need to inform me that hunting is actually benificial to the animals and all this stuff about how much the hunters have helped the animals. I had nothing to poke back with at the moment so I only listened and he indirectly characterized me as one of the "uniformed" youth. I dunno if he meant it in a positive light or not but it still kinda rattled me.

greenworlds
Jul 10th, 2005, 12:06 AM
Using that reasoning it could be said war is helping human-beings...can anyone really saying killing is helping anyone whatever the species..unless using some warped logic.