Things meat eaters say and do

[KcCrash]

[QUOTE=CrunchyMomma;565880]


I've been asked all of the cliche ones (I swear, I think there is some sort of brochure they pass around with what they think are clever questions):

-If there was a child and a hen in a burning house, which would you rescue first?

If first means, I could rescue them both fine, then would it matter so much?It depends which one was in more danger too.

-Would you rather people or animals be homeless?people. we are in a world where people have more care and more chances. animals have no chance a lot of the time (assuming here the question means dogs/cats/rodents/domesticated animals and homes means nice homes with humans who care.

-Don't you kill bees and spiders if they get in your house?no.I am vegan, I kill nothing purposely.

-Aren't you worried about plants having feelings too?
not worried no. maybe they do, we dont know for 100% sure. But we know 100% sure animals have feelings. I would rather watch a plant die than watch a cow/pig/sheep screaming in fear and agony.

-Do you care more about animals than humans?yes.but I am a weirdo. most vegans care about both. I care about those most in need, everyone else can care about humans.

-Aren't you worried about becoming anemic or having a protein deficiency?
No. It is extremely difficult to be deficient in protein unless you have anorexia, are severaly under-nutritionised or have some specialist condition. I dont fall into those categories. as for anemia, there is no significant difference 'tweem meat eaters who have it and vegans/vegetarians that have it.

[DavidT]

and would all animals not die anyway if they weren't eaten?

That is such an annoying question. I usually run out of patience when that one arrives because it is so naive.

[Prawnil]

... everyone else can care about humans.

This makes me wish, since we've now got a Thanks! button, that there was an anti!-Thanks button.

[Sarabi]

:rolleyes: A friend from university used to say she was vegetarian, but she sometimes ate sausages and anything else not immediately recognisable as part of an animal. She still avoids most meat most of the time, but has given up saying she's vegetarian.

On the other hand she did start reducing her meat consumption several years before I did, so perhaps she has eaten less animal matter than I have over a lifetime. Hmmm.
Sounds like this girl I met who lives in a vegetarian co-op and said she can't turn down an offering of meat, and since she never calls herself vegetarian or anything, she never informs her hosts or anyone that she prefers not to eat meat. So self-defeating. If I had a stronger personality, I would've told her, "You need to just be strong and say, 'Hey! I'm vegetarian,' before you even get started. When I tell people I'm vegan, they usually respect that and will even inform me if I accidentally eat something non-vegan." (Saying "I'm vegan" makes it so, by making other people respect my decision-making process. Saying, "I try to be vegan, if offerings are available," would be like saying, "I'll put out some effort, but don't worry if you fail to respect my preferred decisions.") But unfortunately, I was just like, "Well... it's, uh, easier if you have a principle." WTF was I thinking?

Anyway... I admire people who are strong enough to just flat-out tell me how to improve my life, unabashed. Unless they badger me without being asked. The only people who are allowed to badger me are people I've specifically chosen as instructors or who really know what they're talking about! But somehow, I never know how to do that to people. I rarely feel like I know what I'm talking about, but more like I'm going to turn someone away from veganism by proselytizing.

[Shrapnel]

Not so much a question, but comment. I recently was at a fur protest up at Utah's Park City, and among the odd responses (including some people wanting to take pictures), one person walking by said, "Good for you. Let's put an end to abortion." I... guess he didn't read the signs all the way O_o Unless he took the "Don't kill in the name of fashion" slogan to mean we were putting an end to the fetus skin coats that are all the rage in The Hollywood.

[Quantum Mechanic]

^ I'd have said "Do you know anything, I mean anything, about Biology?"

Well, I didn't want to be too forward about it, considering that she didn't quite finish high school and while I did use snarky remarks and sarcasm a lot in my youth to cope with things, I prefer not to guide my interactions with this tone, even when it's really tempting. For instance, I found out that my aunt seems to think there's something to homeopathy, and while it didn't really come up, if I were to discuss the topic with her, I wouldn't use snarky remarks, as I'm sure that those would garner more memory (and unpleasant taste) than any of the rational things I would say.

Sometimes the old adage of "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" seems appropriate, such as when my other sister was saying some things about how she thought global warming was a big scam, citing the cool weather (of course she's watched videos, documentaries, that sort of thing as well as her observation of weather, but as we were about to go to a birthday dinner, I didn't want to make an awkward situation of it, though if I had said anything probably would've just made a simple statement about how climate and weather differ).

EDIT: Also, with snarky remarks and such, even when they've only been thought up after a thorough consideration of the evidence, if that's what is first brought to light or remembered most, then it can seem like the snarky attitude came first, formed the conclusions, and then looked for evidence to support the attitude, even if it is in fact the other person discussing with who may have done this, with or without a snarky attitude. Sarcasm and complete incredulity at people's line of thinking may be at times funny when expressed in a certain way, but I don't think it is appropriate for discussion - even if you lack respect for the intellect or morals or whatever of the person you're engaging with, you never know who may be in the room listening, or who they might talk to about that "mean person who said I didn't understand anything".

[shellymi2nv]

My husband and I were asked if vegans meant we were from Las Vegas.

I get that one ALL the time... Maybe it's because I actually LIVE here in Las Vegas? LOL

However, along those lines, I did get asked once what would happen if I did happen to move away from Vegas. Would I no longer be vegan??? By that reasoning then, all 1+ million people living in Las Vegas should be vegans! :thumbsup:

[shellymi2nv]

I just got this question:

"Do you drink water? Because it's got all sorts of dead tiny animal parts floating in it, dontcha know?" :dizzy:

[Mahk]

That's actually true. All bodies of water: lakes, streams, resevoirs, etc are all teaming with microscopic life (http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/indexmag.html?http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/wimsmall/crust.html). That's the nature of our planet. Zooplankton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooplankton)are the more animal like ones vs. more plant like ones but diatoms (more plant like) are the coolest looking ones. They look like aliens and spacecraft!
http://www2.cnrs.fr/sites/en/image/slide0001_image005hd.jpg

[terem]

I was offered donuts today at work and I declined saying that there is probably dairy in them.
One of the guys I work with said "Why not? Donuts aren't alive!"

And then another guy came over after hearing my explanation for why I don't drink milk and the terrors that cows go through for us to have it, and he said, "You know what happens if they don't kill them? They die of old age. It's more painful for them to die of old age, so it's more humane to kill them."

I told him that killing them isn't humane either and he just stared at me. Does anyone know if it actually is painful for cows to die of old age? I feel stupid for asking that, but I'm just curious as he was SO serious when he said it.

[Mahk]

I was offered donuts today at work and I declined saying that there is probably dairy in them. One of the guys I work with said "Why not? Donuts aren't alive!"


LOL!:tongue_ani:

There's no such thing as "dying of old age" really. You either die of cardiac arrest, brain death, you stop breathing, etc. Some are painful, some aren't. But to be sure you never ever stub your toe again, staple your finger, accidentally bump your head, or get a paper cut do you think euthanasia makes more sense?:dizzy:


It's more painful for them to die of old age, so it's more humane to kill them."

Of course this would apply to him also so maybe you should kill him now. It's more humane after all.;) As he lays there dying on the floor you could say, "You're welcome. I didn't want you to die from old age after all.":D

[vegankitty]

Of course this would apply to him also so maybe you should kill him now. It's more humane after all.;) As he lays there dying on the floor you could say, "You're welcome. I didn't want you to die from old age after all.":D

This made me laugh.

[terem]

Of course this would apply to him also so maybe you should kill him now. It's more humane after all.;) As he lays there dying on the floor you could say, "You're welcome. I didn't want you to die from old age after all.":D

Hah I'll remember that one:)

While all that was happening I was thinking of your signature Mahk! Haha
He didn't say anything after I made the point that killing them wasn't humane either. ;)

[Tigerlily]

Person: Have you ever used sheepskin condoms? [in reference to me mentioning my latex allergy]
Me: Um, no! Haha, they aren't vegan.
Person: What?! You don't eat them, though?
Me: Yeah, but still. It's not vegan and it's gross.

[asleep ona sunbeam]

Person: Have you ever used sheepskin condoms? [in reference to me mentioning my latex allergy]
Me: Um, no! Haha, they aren't vegan.
Person: What?! You don't eat them, though?
Me: Yeah, but still. It's not vegan and it's gross.

it almost sounds like that person is talking from personal experience...*shudders*

[CrunchyMomma]

Person: Have you ever used sheepskin condoms? [in reference to me mentioning my latex allergy]
Me: Um, no! Haha, they aren't vegan.
Person: What?! You don't eat them, though?
Me: Yeah, but still. It's not vegan and it's gross.

Not completely a vegan-related topic, but that person saying "you don't eat them" reminded me of an experience I had at my local yarn shop. I was looking for a good, non-wool sock yarn one day to knit my mother a pair of socks. The lady pointed out a new brand they had just gotten in called TOFUtsies, which is a wool/soysilk/cotton blend (I reckon she missed the "non-wool" part of my request). Then she said, "the really neat part is that there is something in it called 'chitin', which is crushed up crab and shrimp shells."

I am *highly* allergic to shellfish to begin with, so I explained to her that I couldn't use that. She gave me a half-confused, half-disgusted look and said, "well you're not going to be eating it!" :rolleyes:

[Tigerlily]

Some people just don't get it.

[helen105281]

We have just been to Pizza hut for dinner and had an amusing/slightly annoying experience with the waiter. When we aksed for no cheese he asked why, so we explained and he spent the rest of the time we were there asking lots of questions (the usual ones so I won't list them) and making really lame jokes about fox hunting and abatoirs.:(

[Enchantress]

Ugh, honestly I'd report him to the manager for that. Surely it's his job to bring you the food you've ordered, no questions asked and definitely no piss-taking.

[helen105281]

Thanks, didn't think of it at the time as were slightly amused by him but as I drove home we were getting madder and madder.

[miss-fit]

The kids at school ask me what a vegan is, So I paitenly explane it to them while they fix me with a blank stare, Then when I've finished my speach they ask "do you eat chicken?"
Tipical lol

[Declan]

I was in an Italian restaurant last week with my family, and when we were ordering I explained in precise detail and in Italian, the waiter's own language, that I was a vegan and what that meant. At the end of my three-and-a-half minute talk about it, his response: Lei puó mangiare pesce? - NO, NO I DON'T EAT FISH!!! Why don't people get that???

[shellymi2nv]

NO, NO I DON'T EAT FISH!!! Why don't people get that???

The only thing I can come up with (with only 1 cup of coffee in me) is that to most people, animals have legs and a fish doesn't.

[harpy]

Lei puó mangiare pesce??

What's the Italian for "I can but I don't"? Or would that just complicate matters? :D

[terem]

What's the Italian for "I can but I don't"? Or would that just complicate matters? :D


Eh, my sister always says that I CAN'T eat chicken, eggs, etc. and I always remind her that I can but I CHOOSE not to. There's a difference. I hate to think of veganism as a set of rules. I'm making an ethical choice not to eat animals and their byproducts.