View Full Version : Things meat eaters say and do
mememe
May 22nd, 2006, 12:41 PM
Great points, and a great idea!!!
Lorrs
May 25th, 2006, 09:04 AM
I was having the vegan debate with my ex online, we used to have this debate alot when we were going out and it could become very heated. Anyways after going on about all the benefits of veganism he always comes out with "so if everyone went vegan, what would you do with all the animals".
I always say not everyone would go vegan overnight so it wouldn't happen like that but hopefully as more and more people went vegan the demand on meat would lessen meaning farmers would cut back on breeding the animals. But then he always asks me about what would happen with the ones that are left would we realease them into the wild and if so how would they survive? And what about problems with them breeding and overpopulating areas that would mean having to cull them.
I've always said that by farmers stopping breeding and more and more people going vegan that gradually there wouldn't be many of the animals left then the remaining ones if it was to be so harmful to the environment could be kept in sanctuarys to live out their lives happily. But then he accuses me of supporting the genocide of farm animals.
My other suggestion is that they could actually find a place that the animals could survive but then he starts asking me where and I really don't have a clue.
So how do you lot answer the "so where would you put all the animals" question?
madpogue
May 26th, 2006, 11:00 PM
So how do you lot answer the "so where would you put all the animals" question? Um, it's not our question to answer?
This is like asking the environmental community "where would you put all the nuclear waste?", or asking a feminist "where would you put all the violent porn?", or asking a pacifist "where would you put all the weapons?".
But yeah, you're right, people still ask. But here's (IMHO) the real reason they ask: they think that, absent a clear-cut answer on "our" part, that justifies perpetuating the industry and the practice. Evel Knievel could not jump the logical chasm in that kind of thinking.
Haniska
May 30th, 2006, 10:49 PM
I get this one a LOT:
*eating out at a buffet type place*
Dining Partner: "I don't think that this ice cream is real ice cream."
Me: "What, you mean it is frozen yogurt?"
DP: "No, it's not that."
Me: "Maybe it's fat free then."
DP: "No, it doesn't taste like real ice cream at all!"
*looks at me expectantly, as if I will go up and get myself a big bowl of it*
Do they really think that a restaurant would serve non-dairy ice cream without advertising it?
Along the same lines I get:
"I know you don't like butter so I only used a little bit/used margarine."
"Oh, don't worry, it's fat free."
"Can you eat *insert vegetable item here*" No, I'm morally opposed to french fries fried in vegetable oil.
When asked if I would be able to find something to eat at a creole seafood restaraunt I replied "Nope." To which my grandma replied, "Well, you can eat bakes potatoes, can't you?
This of course explains why they think I am unhealthy, apparently all I eat is dry baked potatoes.
Haniska
May 30th, 2006, 10:52 PM
or asking a feminist "where would you put all the violent porn?",
That is a good one.
Haniska
May 30th, 2006, 11:01 PM
Later the same person said to me - "Do you think you will ever get better from the vegan thing you have" What the F***K!!!!!! sorry but some people are from Mars or out of touch.....
I'm sorry but that is really hilarious. I hope they get better from that eating the dead bodies of innocent animals thing they have.
Soyalicius
Jun 3rd, 2006, 10:07 PM
Don't these comments just wind you up? But you need to keep your cool.
My Dad takes the biscuit. When he met my partner he was giving him the third degree, asking ahim about being vegan, then said 'Well if you cut an onion ot screams' grrr:mad: .
No wonder my boyfriend hates going round now. How embarressing too.:o
princessemma
Jun 3rd, 2006, 11:44 PM
I have a great friend. She said 'I couldn't be a vegan cos I'm too selfish.' At least she's not hiding behind a load of stupid excuses like most omni's.
puffin
Jun 4th, 2006, 08:42 PM
Well this is more than a comment made by a meat eater but im putting it here.
I found a list in my sons book bag. On it was a list of healthy and non healthy foods. I nearly died when i read the crap that was put in the healthy list.
Duck, scotch eggs, pork, cheese, milk, wild boar oh and there were a few veg and fruit thrown in. Now i found out that my son had to go to the local Browns (butchers type shop) and the man who owned the shop told the kids what was healthy so they just wrote it down :mad:
I have the list and i am going to make sure the teacher has time to see me tomorrow so i can tell her what i think of this stupid list :mad:
princessemma
Jun 4th, 2006, 08:53 PM
That's disgusting! I'm shocked that anyone on the planet, even the dimmest of omnis would believe that a scotch egg is healthy. Next they'll be taking them to McDonalds. I'm assuming you weren't told about this trip to the butcher's shop?
If you don't get a good explaination from the teacher I suggest you talk to the head and the school govenors if neccesary, teaching children about nutrition is a serious issue.
puffin
Jun 4th, 2006, 09:01 PM
Yes i was thinking a trip to the head would be a god idea as my sons teacher is know to be very short tempered. I have had a few talks with her in the past about her rudness ;)
I will let you know what happens. No i didnt know about the trip, if i had i would have made sure he didnt have to put up with looking into freezers of dead animals. He was quite sickened by the whole thing.
Soyalicius
Jun 4th, 2006, 09:01 PM
That's the sort of rubbish I would expect from a butcher, and to think you send your son to school to learn. OMG that is so worrying, I would be giving the teacher an earful too and to let me know about future trips!! GRR:mad:
puffin
Jun 4th, 2006, 09:05 PM
To right soyalicius :) . I will make sure they tell me next time they decide to subject my son to something so disturbing.
princessemma
Jun 4th, 2006, 09:14 PM
I thought that school's had to have a parent's consent to take any pupil out of the school on trips.
Kiran
Jun 5th, 2006, 04:23 AM
Now i found out that my son had to go to the local Browns (butchers type shop)
Puffin, thats disgusting.:mad: Its wrong for the school to take your veggie kid to the butcher store because it is against his life-style. The school has been irresponsible. Does the teacher know that he is a veggie? If so, you can question her and hold her responsible for her stupid act. Maybe even consult the head of the school to make sure that such things don't happen again.
madpogue
Jun 6th, 2006, 09:52 PM
What, pray tell, is a "scotch egg"? (Sorry, but I'm imagining the poor chickens being gotten drunk on whiskey....)
Lydia_Sorrow
Jun 7th, 2006, 03:48 PM
What, pray tell, is a "scotch egg"? (Sorry, but I'm imagining the poor chickens being gotten drunk on whiskey....)
Its a boiled egg, wrapped in sausage meat, covered with egg yolk and then bread crumbs put all over it.
Its one of the most yukky things I have ever eaten when I was a kid.
Jamie
Jun 7th, 2006, 06:16 PM
"so if everyone went vegan, what would you do with all the animals".
I've had that one before too!! I don't really have a very good answer, but I would say, "they have a natural lifespan!" and although it's not the best answer, if you kept them as they are now, minus the murder, but plus some nice green rolling fields to retire to, they would die out, but you WOULD have to keep the boys and girls apart, which is a bit interfering, but then, it's still better than what people currently do! So it is a major step forward. And I can't see the entire world all being vegan - if it got that widespread, there would always be a section of people who are pro-animal eating (I could imagine anyone who eats fois gras now in this category!), so they would have a few still around. And you never know, cows and sheep might make good companion animals, like pigs are for George Clooney. So they are unlikely to go extinct, and they'll end up in zoos anyway. At least they won't be killed because someone can't be bothered to try eating a lentil. :cool:
Hemlock
Jun 7th, 2006, 07:04 PM
Well this is more than a comment made by a meat eater but im putting it here.
I found a list in my sons book bag. On it was a list of healthy and non healthy foods. I nearly died when i read the crap that was put in the healthy list.
Duck, scotch eggs, pork, cheese, milk, wild boar oh and there were a few veg and fruit thrown in. Now i found out that my son had to go to the local Browns (butchers type shop) and the man who owned the shop told the kids what was healthy so they just wrote it down :mad:
I have the list and i am going to make sure the teacher has time to see me tomorrow so i can tell her what i think of this stupid list :mad:
Not to mention feckin' bizarre - how many ordinary people do you know eat wild boar regularly as part of a healthy diet????
Scoth eggs are filth!
scruffyhead
Jun 7th, 2006, 07:17 PM
as pricessemma said i thought schools needed the concent of a parent for the child to be off the school premises in school hours!? i cant believe the teacher allowed you son to go to such a place knowing he was vegetarian. i do hope you have words puffin.
Infact im amazed the school had a trip to such a place when schools are supposidly trying to promote healthy eating in kids nowadays. :confused:
Antonia
Jun 7th, 2006, 07:41 PM
On finding out I'm vegan my Kung Fu instructor told me 'just you wait, you'll come running back to me in a couple of months complaining that you're ill... you will get ill if you don't eat meat, you need it for strength'. I didn't even bother telling him I'd been veggie for a couple of years previously.
tilly
Jun 7th, 2006, 08:36 PM
People are idiots...
wilson
Jun 7th, 2006, 08:45 PM
On finding out I'm vegan my Kung Fu instructor told me 'just you wait, you'll come running back to me in a couple of months complaining that you're ill'
"This woman is ill !!! Somebody fetch a kung fu instructor !!"
:rolleyes:
Smoothie
Jun 7th, 2006, 09:44 PM
oh shit. i'm really sorry if i affend any of you by saying this: but after reading all of this, i might think you are some of the 2% of america that doesn't have an IQ under 12. i mean - i've heard some stupid things about me being vegan - like bla bla.. you'll get sick, bla bla.. itsn't it hard not eating meat? - but i think some of your comments are just plain FUCKED UP. but i don't know. maybe it's just the fact that denmark hasn't become a fast-food culture ("that's not meat - it's a burger!") - YET. i don't know. i hate people. and i sure hate the shit capitalist system that makes people stupid, ignorant and just a bunch of dumb-asses. i truly don't get how you can sit and listen to a completely logical argument of why not to eat animals, who've been kept in tiny cages, have been in big pains ever since they were born, and at last ended their lives in some brutal way, for you to eat them, and just KEEP ON DOING IT LIKE IT'S JUST FUCKING NOTHING. for fucks sake - how fucking faschist can you be?! it just makes me so angry and sad that people don't get it. this world sucks. BIG TIME.
( i feel like killing someone right now.)
claireyveg
Jun 8th, 2006, 03:53 AM
I went out with my "vegetarian" friend the other day ( i say "vegetarian" because she calls herself that but has tuna nearly everyday and eggs, and milk and cheese, so in my opinion she is basically omni but doesn't eat beef, chicken, lamb? ) Anyways i was out with her and were we having a discussion about veganism and she was questioning milk, "why milk, cows need to be milked or they get too full" I was like yeh thats the job for the calves not the farmers, she then went on to say what if there isn't a calf, cows can't control when they make milk, they make it all the time, not just when there is a calf around, and this is where proceeded to lose it... some people are so dumb!!
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