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Apr 2nd, 2006, 03:20 PM
I am in the process of renovating a victorian cottage (probably will be for the next 10years at this rate:) )

There are two questions really-

Should i bother? i have planning permission to demolish and build two new properties. Would this be better for the environment? my house is cold + drafty etc..it consumes a lot of energy and is nowhere near modern insulation standards. I could build two eco houses? am i just being nostalgic in renovating this one?

The second point is vegan diy products. i use ecos paints which are vegan but trying to find out about other stuff is a nightmare. I was using tile adhesive today i reckon it's the kind of thing that may have gelatine in? but i just don't know??

interested in your comments and any DIY advice. volunteers are also welcome:D

Apr 2nd, 2006, 03:53 PM
According to Quakergreenaction, about 50,000kg of CO2 providing materials to build a typical family house. And a skip of building waste causes 1000kg of CO2.

So your alternative plans of building 2 houses makes 100,000kg plua however many skips it takes to carry the cottage away x 1000kg.

I suspect that in CO2 terms at least its better for the environment to renovate.

Apr 3rd, 2006, 06:42 PM
I'd not really considered the CO2 cost. It would be very difficult to compare that to the extra energy i am using plus all the new products i buy and waste i produce carrying out renovations.

I thought i'd post a couple of pics so you can see why i love the place and waht a state it's in -



Apr 3rd, 2006, 06:45 PM
Looks a nice place. Ok If you are going to build two houses, that is a big project, which requires careful planning and good cash flow.

Check out this book:

link (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0954867408/qid=1144086331/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_3_1/026-0315307-5672445)

If I remember rightly the first chapter, says to avoid eco-builds as a first build.

Apr 3rd, 2006, 06:48 PM
the first chapter, says to avoid eco-builds as a first build.


Apr 3rd, 2006, 06:49 PM
Yeah well, rules are made to be broken. Check out the book though.

Apr 3rd, 2006, 06:53 PM
Yeah well, rules are made to be broken. Check out the book though.

cheers , will do.

I don't really want to get rid of the house, i love it and have about 1/4 acre to grow veggies. But after labouring all weekend, spending a fortune and creating a bag of rubbish just from the packaging of the stuff i'd bought the questions began crossing my mind.

Apr 3rd, 2006, 07:31 PM
it's so charming- keep it.
i have an old house and it is a pain to keep up but there is something about it that you don't get with new homes (a warm fuzzy feeling:) )

also- your house probably fits in with the local landscape and your gardens. a new home may stick out (and not in a good way)

Apr 3rd, 2006, 08:05 PM
it's so charming- keep it.
i have an old house and it is a pain to keep up but there is something about it that you don't get with new homes (a warm fuzzy feeling:) )

fuzzy definatley not warm though!!

Apr 3rd, 2006, 09:39 PM
Well, I'm such a dreamer, so I've been planning my dream house for a looong time, though it will be a while before I can actually afford to build it and live in it! But, I've found good resources along the way and you might be interested in some of them;)

Web Resources:

Design: Green: http://www.designgreen.org/
Sage: Green Living: http://sagebug.com/
BuidingGreen.com: http://www.buildinggreen.com/
BetterBricks: http://www.betterbricks.com/
GreenSage: http://www.greensage.com/index.html
Envirolet Composting Toilets (if you want to be REALLY green;):eek::D: http://www.envirolet.com/index.html
MetaEfficient: A Guide to the Most Efficient Things in the World: http://www.metaefficient.com/
Envirolink: http://www.envirolink.org/categories.html?do=shownews/


Green Remodeling by David R. Johnston, Kim Master
Green Building Products by Sarah Susanka (Foreword), et al
The New Ecological Home by Dan Chiras
Good Green Homes by Jennifer Roberts
Green by Design by Angela Dean, Angela M. Dean
The Solar House by Daniel D., Ph.D. Chiras
The New Natural House Book by David Pearson
Natural Home Heating by Greg Pahl
Sustainable Homes by James Grayson Trulove
Living Homes: Sustainable Architecture and Design byby Suzi Moore, et al
Clean House! by Alison Haynes
Eco by Elizabeth Wilhide
Ecological Design by Sim Van Der Ryn, Stuart Cowan
The Eco-design Handbook by Alastair Fuad-Luke
Ecodesign by Alastari Fuad-Luke
Design for Sustainability by Janis Birkeland

Good luck with your house projects!!

Apr 3rd, 2006, 09:44 PM
Wow, that is a great list.

I also want to build my own place eventually, but will probably be another 5 years at least.

A self-built eco-house is a great dream to work for :)

Apr 3rd, 2006, 10:00 PM
Oh, mine will definitely take longer than 5 years! Sigh... But it will be so worth it when it's all done ;) Good luck to you too Blueshark!

Apr 3rd, 2006, 10:35 PM
Thanks for the list of references, i'll have a look through them.

I would love to build my own place but i have a soft spot for old properties. Having an old cottage is fantastic, not practicle or env. friendly, but fantastic nevertheless.

i haven't the cash to build from scratch so will probably continue with my labour of love. Need a vegan lodger really to help with the cash.

Apr 3rd, 2006, 10:44 PM
VBB can I ask, where do you get your eco paints from? Is it mail order?

Apr 3rd, 2006, 10:47 PM
Feral - yes mail order them


try that:)

Apr 3rd, 2006, 10:52 PM
Thats great thanks!

Apr 4th, 2006, 08:49 AM
vbb, i think there is something special about that house. i dont know if you believe in this sort of stuff or not, but i got really good feelings from it :)

i think you and that house are just meant to be together! what better reward could you get than to renovate a house you love. one day youll step back and see everything done and feel such happiness. i dont know if you would have such a soft spot for 2 new homes.

if it were me, i would renovate.

Apr 4th, 2006, 11:04 AM
What a fantastic place. I'd renovate for sure, but as I know absolutely nothing about DIY I wouldn't know where to start!

Have you seen the 'It's Not Easy Being Green' programme on BBC2 about a family who are converting an old house to be eco-friendly? It's on tonight (Tuesday) at 8.30.

As for building your own property, this place is my ideal.

Apr 4th, 2006, 03:01 PM
You will find lots of cool info here

Apr 4th, 2006, 05:05 PM
Have you seen the 'It's Not Easy Being Green' programme on BBC2 about a family who are converting an old house to be eco-friendly? It's on tonight (Tuesday) at 8.30.

i know somebody who's going to be on that, she used to work in our local veggie cafe, must remember to watch it.

Mr Flibble
Oct 28th, 2006, 10:42 AM
I'm in the process of buying a 1850s victorian terrace with another member of this forum which doesn't need an awful lot of work doing to be inhabitable but does have a fantastic cellar (full length of the house with skylights in both ends (boarded up but there)) that we want to convert when finances permit. It's also got a convertable loft, but would probably exceed the ceiling price of the road if we did both.

Have you (veganbikerboy) or anyone else used ecospaints? I came across them last night (then remembered this thread) and am going to send away for a sample. They seem top do a lot more besides just paint which is good and at a very quick first glance they appear to be reasonably well priced.

Any other things you've found useful to UK renovaters? I know roughly about builing things, but never tried buying vegan friendly ones.

Oct 28th, 2006, 03:06 PM
yes i use ecos paints:D

expensive but very very good, all the gloss and emulsion (in the decorated bit) in my place is from Ecos. Also they provide good customer service.

Also externally i used their rain guard (can't remember what they call theirs) on the whole of the brickwork. The two gable ends are done in their masonary paint and the cast iron guttering is done in their metal paint.

The only one i have had a minor problem with is the floor paint, which seems to wear off very quick, but popular opinion is that i am too tight with the paint and should paint it on thicker:D (you have to be careful with the price you pay for it:D )

Apr 20th, 2007, 12:08 PM
I am just in the process of dry lining the gable end of my place and i had the 'hard sell' from bradford building supplies on the 'sheeps wool insulation' no matter how many times i tried to explain that i didnt want sheeps wool in my walls he didnt get the concept that 'vegan' was more than just what you eat:rolleyes:

Apr 20th, 2007, 12:25 PM
I presume you know about these guys:- http://www.constructionresources.com/ who have recycled newsprint insulation material.

Apr 20th, 2007, 12:31 PM
no i hadnt heard of these guys, so cheers for the link, not had chance to look properly yet. Do they deliver nationally?? and i wonder if the impact of ordering stuff from london out weighs benefits of using conventional insulations bought at a local merchants:confused: