I like skittles, but yes not exactly healthy are they! Not too many calories though. Does anybody know if the sour version is vegan (uk) ?
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I like skittles, but yes not exactly healthy are they! Not too many calories though. Does anybody know if the sour version is vegan (uk) ?
I have bought oreos in France last summer. I saw people talking about oreos on vegan blogs, so I thought they were vegan. Unfortunately I have noticed milk powder or something like that there when only a couple of cookies were left in the packet.
You could donate them somewhere! Maybe there are some food banks around like in grocery stores or what not
I've never seen a food bank here. I know that there are places where needy people can go to get their weekly food shop topped up but these are govt run.
The skittles are now on ebay, have a couple people watching. Hopefully someone will make at one bid and they are off my hands.
We have food banks in Lithuania, almost in every supermarket, although I haven't seen any in the UK.
About Skittles, don't they belong to on of the large companies who test? I don't understand how people can eat gelatine either, maybe if they don't know it's gelatine, then, but ewww.
I did the exact same thing as someone earlier on the thread - bought prepackaged miso soup sachets only to discover that they had fish flakes in them... d'oh... I buy miso all the time, many different brands, and this is the only one that's been non-vegan. It's so irritating - miso doesn't need to have fish in it. You probably can't even taste it. Anyway I'm not sure what to do with it, I bought it from Tesco online the other week so I guess I could go into a store and try to exchange it, or I could bin it. I tend to think that the damage has been done (paying for an animal product, thus giving my money to companies who use animals) but I still can't bring myself to eat it, knowing what's in it.
Interesting what leedsveg said earlier about buying animal products for other people - I bought a pint of cow's milk when my parents were staying as they prefer to have this in tea/coffee rather than soya milk (they're omni). I didn't consume any myself of course, but I still felt bad because I bought it, therefore some of my money has gone towards the dairy industry (which is what I want to avoid, being vegan!). But what's the alternative - insist they drink soya milk, or make them pay for their cow's milk themselves? Seems a bit unhospitable... But then I wouldn't buy meat for them, so what's the difference? :confused:
If your parents are staying at your place I guess they should respect you choices and your lifestyle and drink tea or coffee with soymilk. I would even ask not to bring anything that's not vegan to my home. I don't know, maybe it's just me who is so impolite :/
We don't let people bring animal products into our kitchen. My partner's mum was pretty annoyed that we wouldn't let her put cow's milk in our mugs, but it's a rule we're sticking to.
I have omni friends. When I invite them round, do I ask them to ensure that their shoes, underwear etc are 100% vegan, before I can allow them in the house?
A few years ago, we had a suspected gas leak in our kitchen. Should I have asked the emergency gas engineers to remove their leather boots before entering? Same for the chap who calls to read the gas/electric meters. Do I check on his clothing before I let him in?
Where does it end?
Lv
We don't allow any animal products in our house at all. My parents were pretty annoyed the first time we requested they don't bring dairy milk to put in their tea/coffee but now they are fine. My mum will drink soya milk at our house but my dad is irrationally quite scared of it (!) so will only drink green tea :) I would very much hope my parents prefer me to milk!
Interesting replies... many of you are much stricter than I am about what guests are allowed to do. I feel like I did break my own moral rules by buying that milk, so I won't be doing that again. I think next time, I'll ask my boyfriend to buy it (he isn't 100% vegan yet) or will ask my parents to bring some with them (or have soya milk, their choice). My parents already eat 100% vegan meals when they're here, as I won't prepare anything containing animal products.
I would ideally like no animal products to be brought into my home. However, I also take leeds veg's point. If my parents come into my home wearing woollen jumpers and leather shoes or coats that they bought themselves, how is this different morally from them bringing milk that they bought themselves? I wouldn't be expected to drink it, and I'd wash the cups afterwards, so I don't see how it impacts my veganism if I didn't buy it. There's also the point that a lot of what is already in my home, such as some of my furniture, probably contains animal products.
I don't allow raw meat in my kitchen, partly for hygiene reasons and partly because I find it repulsive. I have allowed people to bring cooked meat into the house to eat, though. We had some of my boyfriend's family round quite recently and we all had a Thai takeaway - they ordered meat dishes and paid for them. Me and my partner had vegan tofu dishes. I felt beforehand that this was fair enough as I didn't pay for their meals and I didn't want to dictate to them what they could eat, however it did make me uncomfortable to see the meat actually in front of me on the table. Now I'm not sure what to do should the situation arise again. We have cooked vegan meals for my boyfriend's family in the past but they've made it clear that they prefer takeaway as this way they get to eat what they like (i.e. meat).
It's a difficult one - I feel that as long as I am not paying for or consuming animal products then I am vegan. I'm not sure where to draw the line at what other people do in my house because I don't want there to be any unnecessary arguments and tension with family members. I feel that as long as they don't expect me to break my moral rules then there should be some leeway - I'm just not sure how much.
People can bring animal products in to our house, just not into our kitchen or in our cups etc. As far as I'm concerned, putting milk in my cups would be akin to pissing in it. Yeah I can clean it out afterwards but I'd rather it just didn't happen in the first place. Besides, is it really that much of a hardship to not have calves milk for once?
I don't really feel that way about my crockery. Not least because most of it is old and/or second hand and has definitely had animal products in it in the past, so I can't really see the point of being precious about it. Unless everything in your kitchen is brand new then there will be trace amounts of animal products on most things.
I don't think it would be a hardship for my guests to drink non dairy milk (or go without), but they would probably feel unwelcome if I demanded this of them. Obviously I would prefer if they didn't want to drink cow's milk, but they do.
I dunno, clothing and shoes are personal things, guests do not want you to wear their things and it's everyone's choice. I think it's different with food. If guests, your friends know that you are vegan and that you don't want any animal foods in your home they shouldn't expect to be able to drink milk. It's the same as a vegan would go to visit his friends and would require all the food to be vegan..
See I don't think it is exactly the same as that. Of course when I go to visit my parents (or anyone else for that matter) I require all the food, drink etc to be vegan. Because I have rules about the food I eat, buy and prepare. But if other people don't have those same rules, then I don't see why I should stop them doing what they want to do (as long as they don't expect me to break any of my rules)*. Of course I could say that a new rule is that I don't allow any animal products in the house, and ask people to respect that. But I struggle to justify that stance, tbh. I could be wrong.
I don't really see the difference, morally, between clothing/shoes and food. If it's everyone's choice what they wear, is it not everyone's choice what they eat? Where would you draw the line with clothes (if at all) - how about if someone wore a fur coat in your house?
*I should add - I do wish that all my friends and family would see sense and go vegan, because I obviously do think what they're doing is morally wrong, but practically speaking that's not likely to happen (especially with older people).
I like Joanne Stepaniak's definition of the philosophy of veganism in her book Being Vegan:
"Do the least harm and the most good".
This definition asks a vegan to look at varying situations (and resulting actions), case by case, rather than learn a million rules set in stone.
leedsveg
Hello, people! After a long bout of not posting any messages (I've been busy with school, etc. - though I did not realize I'd allowed this much time to go by! :(), I'm back. I have about a million or so threads to reply to on here, so it may take me awhile to reply to messages!
I've been vegan more than half a year now, and it's been amazing and enlightening so far. The health benefits have been rewarding (I tell people that even if I woke up tomorrow not caring about animal rights anymore, I'd still be vegan for life because I just feel so much more alive). My commitment to animal rights and ending exploitation has deepened. I never really realized how superficial my interest in animal rights used to be. As a vegetarian, I used to be unphased eating with meat-eaters, listening to them describe how delicious their food was, etc.
Some people have been talking about rules, regarding what kind of food you allow in your homes, etc. I've been finding it necessary to set new rules myself, in light of my changing feelings and growing sense of injustice, etc. In the past I would probably not have had any problem buying animal products for someone, if they were paying me to order something for them at a restaurant, for example. I would have ordered food for them, etc. I'm finding myself unable to do such things now. I want no part in their wrongdoing...
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Welcome back Kimberlily.
lv:thumbsup:
Thanks, leedsveg! It's good to be back. :)
I was really tired and so I brought an energy drink. This is not something I normally do because I don't like paying my caffiene deficit back later on and plus HUGE calorie content. On this pretext I brought a can of Relentless, but thankfully before I drank it a fellow vegan informed me of the fish geletine and Coca Cola ownership. I've stashed it in my car and will give it to an omni friend the next time the opportunity arises.
Just thought I would share that my partner went out to buy us some food while I studied tonight, and he bought a new kind of Lindt chocolate bar. I said, "You made sure it was vegan, right?" and I thought he replied, "I double-checked" or something like that, but he actually said, "Double-check it." I passed him some squares, then started eating mine, and then happened to notice "butter fat" in the ingredients.
He drove back to the store, returned the product without problems (despite our eating three squares of it), got a vegan one in exchange. I don't know how much of a difference it makes - if the info on why the product was returned will be seen by anyone, etc. - if nothing else it's an encounter with a vegan for the cashier, haha. Anyway, there you go: we return the product if this is possible. :)
^for ref: if the same as the UK - I believe it is only the pure dark (whathaveyou%) Lindt bars that are vegan? Anything 'flavoured' is not afaiaa.
^ Aye, for sure. Was just talking Lindt specifically :)
It's just the dark ones, yes: the ones that are over 70% cocoa. There are different kinds, some milder than others. I like the Madagascar better than the Ecuador type, if memory serves me correctly.
Oh, we had what in my opinion is definitely the best vegan chocolate I've had so far. The brand is Equita, it's fair trade and organic, and while it is also dark chocolate, it is not at all bitter. We had the Mint type (which like you, I'd also not had for months now). Bought it at Club Organic, in Montreal. Soooo good.
I hate buying something that is not vegan and not noticing until after I bought it or worse have started eating it! Tonight I started eating some houmous when I realised it didn't taste the same as it used to. I checked the ingredients to find they have added honey :mad:. Usually I will give non vegan items I have accidently bought to my partner or a friend but it's use by date is today and my partner doesn't eat houmous :sad:. I refuse to eat it, I stopped eating it as soon as I saw the word 'honey' on the list and even spat out what was in my mouth. It angers me as I'm usually very careful but this certain houmous has been vegan for so long I didn't think they would change it. I'm going to go back to my checking of every item now to make sure. It's rare for this to happen (I can count all the times it has since being vegan on one hand) but when it does it makes me feel very guilty :sad:. I certainly couldn't carry on and eat a non-vegan product.
Yuck, honey in houmous? Doesn't even sound nice. Perhaps you should name and shame so that the rest of us don't buy it by accident!
It was Sainsburys houmous. The maroccan style one. It had been vegan for a long time before hand. I hadn't bought it for a while and didn't realise the new recipe logo thing on it when I picked it up :( . Such a shame as it's the only store bought houmous I buy now as I make all the others. Annoyingly I bought it as I can't make that one taste right when I make it and they go and change it :mad:, no idea how long it has had honey in it. I'm really dissapointed as that was one of my treats. I won't be buying houmous again now unless they change it back to being vegan due to it being the only one I can't get right.
Thanks for letting us know, crazy_4_veg. It is annoying when you think you've found something vegan and then they change the formula, isn't it? Still, making your own is good too, not that I often do.
crazy_4_veg, maybe it'd be worth writing to Sainsbury's and complaining - houmous is a vegan staple after all, it's madness that they would make it non-vegan. :(
I've been vegan now for about 15 years and I do it still regularly :S, I never learn. I do have the excuse that I often go shopping with my little girl of 3 who randomly puts products in my trolley and I end up buying something that I don't want or am really distracted and don't check a product well enough. I just did it two days ago as well, buying milk powder instead of soy milk powder, I will return it to the store. If I can't (be bothered) I give it to a friend or at worst just throw it in the bin.
Live in a flat with 6 other non-vegans, not a problem at all :)
I've just realized that I bought some cherry jam that isn't vegan and I can't help thinking about it! I was in a hurry at the supermarket and I bought 2 jams(strawberry and cherry). The other one is okay and I've had it before, but the cherry one contains lactic calcium! I am pretty upset about it because I would feel bad to throw it away, but I would also feel bad to eat it. And my parent's don't eat those stuff, so I just don't know what to do with it... :dizzy:
If you haven't opened it, maybe you can donate it to a food pantry.
Do you definitely know its not Vegan, lactic calcium/calcium lactate can often be vegan