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i was mostly frutitarian during the summer when i ate only raw food, and for a week or two was only fruititarian. it was the most amazing i have ever felt, after that experience, i really feel more inclined to a fruititarian diet than any other diet. i will go back to it someday .. maybe today .. maybe next year .. maybe next month!
there's a lot of reading you can do on it. i think you get your proteins from amino acids or something like that. i never felt weak as a fruititarian, or i guess, mostly fruititarian.
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Hi y'all,
My names Mango, and I'm a fruitarian.. Eve mentioned me a while back in this thread, and for those that are still curious.. I am still a practising fruitarian.. of long standing.. My diet consists of pretty much solely fruit.. I have been a vegan (ethically) for well over 20 years already too..
And I'm back in Australia once more.. after some years traveling around Europe.. Well.. My girlfriend is also fruitarian, she is trying to get into the Big Brother house.. you can see more about that here:
http://mangodurian.blogspot.com
Peace and fruit to all,
regards and hugs too..
Mango the Fruitarian.
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How do you get B12?
(Aaahh!! I just looked at your blog and it looks like there is a picture of you eating durian!!:eek:)
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To clarify my last post, I was specifically asking mangodurian where he got his B12 from. I think it's a completely different issue from where vegans get their B12. For example, I get my B12 from a multivitamin, fortified cereals, and marmite/nutritional yeast. These are all vegan sources (so says the label) but as far as I can tell, they are not fruitarian in the purest sense of the word.
I am just curious. I'm probably not going to become a fruitarian but I would love to know more about it. I would also like to start eating more raw food. Winter time is difficult for me in this respect because I like to eat hot foods like casserole and soups!
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angelamc
To clarify my last post, I was specifically asking mangodurian where he got his B12 from. I think it's a completely different issue from where vegans get their B12. For example, I get my B12 from a multivitamin, fortified cereals, and marmite/nutritional yeast. These are all vegan sources (so says the label) but as far as I can tell, they are not fruitarian in the purest sense of the word.
I am just curious. I'm probably not going to become a fruitarian but I would love to know more about it. I would also like to start eating more raw food. Winter time is difficult for me in this respect because I like to eat hot foods like casserole and soups!
Hi Angela,
yes.. that's me eating the durian.. I think.. but are you sure it wasn't a jack fruit?
Anyhow, in answer to your question about B12, I just wrote this:
B12 on a Fruiatrian diet
It's probably not exactly what you want to hear, but it's about the best answer I can give you..
regards,
Mango the Fruitarian.
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i read your thing on b12 and i totally agree. when i eat raw, the world is so much brighter. i feel inside that i lack nothing nutritionally. i dont know why some people can put so much thought into this nutritional science, its so silly. i dont think about it especially "protein". you eat food that is natural, you dont need anything else. i guess you probably have to think about all those things on a cooked diet or if you eat processed foods and whatnot because it is not natural and does not have all the thigns you need in it. but fruit does. fruit has everything. you dont need supplements. you dont need to think about it.
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Thanks for the prompt reply, mango! It was a very interesting concept, painfully simple! Whenever I go more than a week without taking my b12 supplement the corners of my lips start to crack and I get other symptoms. I am open to your ideas though, and have often thought that human beings did not originally need b12 in their diets. Since I am a Christian I actually believe in a real Adam and Eve and I think that they ate mostly fruitarian diets. I'm not sure if they ate lettuces or not. Anyway, I believe that humans were originally designed to eat the way you describe. After the winter passes I may decide to forgo my supplements and eat a diet higher in fresh fruit. We will see what the results are then!:)
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Hi again!
thanks for your thoughts.. And glad to see that i am making some kind of sense to you both!
It is odd that I get asked so many such questions by people that I can look at and clearly see that they are in a far worse state of health than I have ever been, and yet they still think somehow that I am misinformed and dicing with my own health.
Like, someone might ask "How can you still be alive eating just fruit?".. and I'm thinking, yeah.. the real mystery is how come you are still alive eating whatever it is that you eat..
Truly the human body is capable of taking all kinds of abuse and surviving it for 4 score and 10.. But I reckon that over a period of some generations of fruit eating, we will once more begin to see extended life periods.. and eventually, I feel quite certain that those biblical long lives will be ours once again..
Nice quote applebaby: fruit has everything. you don't need supplements. you don't need to think about it.
regards,
Mango the Fruitarian.
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Hi Mango, good to see you looking so well, and back in Oz. What's that stuff you're covered in? Surely not pawpaw? Don't know where you and your partner are living, but where I am in Qld it is sweltering. Well, mid-30C every day. Some day soon it may rain!
Thank you for your thoughts on B12, you must surely be right. :D
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That photo of you having a mud bath is awesome. :D I thought it was a statue at first.
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hi eve!/sluggie,
yes.. that's mud on me.. (who know's maybe i'm absorbing b12 directly through my skin, from the mud!)..anyhow, mud baths are fun, feel good and very cleansing...
i'm currently working on a small post about detox, and will stick it in my blog when done..
regards to all,
mango.
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I saw a girl on tv the other day who used to be a fruitarian.
She said that for the first 2 weeks she was on a right high, super energetic and so on.
Then she started losing clamps of hair, got black circles underneath the eyes, anaemia and started really suffering.
I agree that fruit is one of the best and most important foods you can eat, but arent a balanced diet on themselves.
You can eat too much fruit, for instance if you eat 5 clementines a day, or 3 regular oranges, you start pissing away your vitamin c. Fact.
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Well it's obviously not causing such awful things to Mango, and he's been a fruitarian for yonks. Surely, Essie, if someone is pissing away their vit C, it can only be the surplus? :)
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BxDani
i personally would love to become a raw vegan but i'm terrified due to the amount of weight you lose
i don't think you necessarily have to lose a lot of weight. i know a guy who's been a raw food vegan for years and he's a bodybuilder. he's very muscular.
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is it just me or does it seem like a lot of vegans on this thread are saying things about fruitarians that animal eaters say about vegans? people who are stating that they know very little to nothing about it, not even what the diet consists of, are saying:
"you don't get enough protein"
"you don't get your b12"
"not enough calories"
"i heard a bad experience about this one person....... so it must be true for everyone"
"that's cool, i respect it, but i could never do it.... i like _____ too much"
i thought that a thread about fruitarianism would have information about fruitarianism but instead it's mostly pages of people talking about why the diet seems like a bad idea based on their own assumptions rather than actual facts about what a healthy fruitarian diet consists of. at the very least i'd love to hear about what a fruitarian eats in a typical day.
i'm sorry if this sounds aggressive, but i think everyone would appreciate it if there was a little more info than naysaying here.
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eve
Well it's obviously not causing such awful things to Mango, and he's been a fruitarian for yonks. Surely, Essie, if someone is pissing away their vit C, it can only be the surplus? :)
Absolutely. I have nothing against fruitarians but utmost respect for those who can get on with it in a healthy manner. If left to my own devices I'd probably stick to bananas and die within 2 weeks!
Perhaps I didnt give much thought to it, never meant to be offensive to those who succeed at being healthy eating only fruit, just cant imagine how difficult it has to be to get it right.
That girl on TV didnt, obviously. If I'd heard about someone who'd been a fruitarian for 5 years and with good health I wouldnt be so biased. It all comes back to me being an ignorant!!! :(
Good night to all
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Never meant to be offensive to those who dont get it right either.
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hi all, eve's right, if she was pissing out vitamin c, it was most likely not needed (to be done) by the body anyway.. essie, there was also a fruitarian of very long standing called essie.. she was south african.. and wrote a book called "I live on fruit and nothing else".. besides.. 2 weeks is not enough to blame any diet.. i know of several long term fruitarians, including one young lad that has grown up healthily on a fruit only diet.. hugs, mango Why fruit wants to be eaten
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i thought that a thread about fruitarianism would have information about fruitarianism but instead it's mostly pages of people talking about why the diet seems like a bad idea based on their own assumptions rather than actual facts about what a healthy fruitarian diet consists of. at the very least i'd love to hear about what a fruitarian eats in a typical day.
i'm sorry if this sounds aggressive, but i think everyone would appreciate it if there was a little more info than naysaying here.
agreed!
maybe you can help research some info with us gg?
i dont know much about it, only basic stuff - i'm keen to learn more too :)
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Hi cedarblue/goodbyegirl,
as a longterm fruitarian keeping a blog, i decided very recently to start posting what I ate each month. Here is the link to what I ate in November 2007 (just divide it by the number of days that I ate during that month, and you'll get a rough Idea of what I might eat on an average day)..
This is what I ate in November 2007
regards,
Mango the Fruitarian
http://mangodurian.blogspot.com
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Mango, I could live on durian alone!! :)
Now you have me jonsing for a durian ... too bad the Asian markets are pretty much out of the way for me.
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healthy,
as a rather pleasant experiment, I once lived on nothing but durian for 2 and a half weeks.. I would have continued mono'ing on them had the season not ended..
In my eyes, they are truly king of all foods, and I am very fortunate to be able to include them regularly in my diet..
regards,
Mango. (Story of my first durian)
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Mango, I always love to hear from fellow durian lovers.
When I had more time to get into NYC, I was eating at least one a week. I brought one to the office and it was a real hit! (Believe it or not!)
I love durians so much I had one tattooed on my inner leg back in 2004, to represent my love for durians and a healthy lifestyle :)
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P.S. -- I just read your durian story. LOL, eating alone in a garage on Christmas -- now, that's dedication!!
The durian high is the best high around. I always get euphoric and energetic after eating them. I make it a point to eat them for breakfast when I have them, any later and I can't sleep nights!
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Have any of you have read any Arnold Ehret's work? He spent a long time in Italy living off nothing more than grapes, sunlight and water.
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Mango - I have been reading your blog, and also your partners...very inspirational! I love Australia, and would love to go back to live there, especially for all the sun and fresh fruit produce available.
It's problematic here, when most of the nicer stuff you get used to is imported. Summer is great though, when the climate is better for more 'exotic' fruits. I'm not sure I could spend winter eating just fruit...especially as it'd be apples, oranges, pears and bananas.
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I've never had durian...when I was in Thailand a lot of people were trying it, and didn't like the smell. That was enough to put me off, unfortunately! I was interested in what you said about the sense of smell being affected by the toxins in the body...that makes sense.
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Zero
Have any of you have read any Arnold Ehret's work? He spent a long time in Italy living off nothing more than grapes, sunlight and water.
have you read any? can you recommend any titles?
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hi all,
arnold ehret was an inspiration for me.. i read his books some 20 years ago..
(one is called mucusless diet healing system, and another rational fasting).
emmy, hope you get to try durian someday, and that you find the courage to move to somewhere with more abundance and variety of fruit.. and healthy, glad you already know to appreciate them!!
hugs,
mango.
http://mangodurian.blogspot.com
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I have Arnold Ehret's: Mucusless Diet Healing System book. It is a great book about how he overcame illness considered incurable and he groups foods into mucus forming and mucus binding (acid / alkali).
His work was published after his death, sadly he died at 58 from a head injury during an accident where he came off his bicycle (if I am remembering correctly).
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I think I'll get that book. It's mega-cheap on Amazon!
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Also, for anyone who thinks Fruitarianism might be unhealthy take a look at Richard Blackman www.fruitarianfitness.com
His myspace has lots of pictures and stuff: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=56245967
He eats nothing but fruit, doesn't even drink water because he gets everything he needs from fruit.
There is also info on www.fruitarian.com
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I've never had durian...when I was in Thailand a lot of people were trying it, and didn't like the smell. That was enough to put me off, unfortunately! I was interested in what you said about the sense of smell being affected by the toxins in the body...that makes sense.
Was it that people told you they didn't like the smell? The durian in Indonesia DID smell horrid, but Thai durian was delicious, espeically with sticky rice! :)
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I would like to try it sometime, but I am afraid of stinking the apartment out. We can buy it at the Asian grocery store.
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Yes, it was the smell that put them off. And that was in Thailand, although come to think of it, it may have been in Cambodia or Vietnam :)
A question about fruitarianism....
I am finding myself eating LOTS of fruit at the moment...which isn't something I'd usually be worried about! But I was wondering whether too much fruit sugar and acid is going to do me more harm than good? I know there are people who live on a fruitarian diet so it must be possible...*confused*!
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care should be taken with dental hygiene with a high fruit/sugar diet.
i know people say they live strictly off a fruit diet (no greens etc) and i guess its up to us to believe that they are walking their talk honestly - with no cheating.....it is a difficult one i agree emmy.
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If someone has inherited type two diabetes, they should steer clear of watermelon and pineapple for a start, as well as orange or other fruit juices. Just too much sugar.
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Isn't is a different type of sugar? Or does that not make any difference?
I have hypoglycaemia but I don't find that eating fruit triggers it. Eating refined sugars certainly does!
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If someone has inherited type two diabetes, they should steer clear of watermelon and pineapple for a start, as well as orange or other fruit juices. Just too much sugar.
I think if you have a condition such as this you should still be careful with your panceas as it may have a problem with processing abundence of natural sugar.
Eventually though a raw diet can reverse diabetes.
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I think if you have a condition such as this you should still be careful with your pancreas as it may have a problem with processing abundance of natural sugar.
Eventually though a raw diet can reverse diabetes.
Hello Zero. Well I inherited the condition, and when diagnosed some years ago, I felt really shocked as I'd kept to a vegan diet. However, since reading various articles, and having a chat with an intelligent doc, I gave up watermelon, pineapple, and the morning glass of orange juice. I also kept to low GI foods. In no time the condition was reversed, and once a year the doc sends me for a blood test to check. Everything is dinki di. :)
Incidentally I'm not on a raw diet, though my breakfast consists of fruit, nuts, and seeds only. Now and then I have a bowl of rice with veges, and an occasional slice of grainy bread, so obviously those items are not raw.