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Re: Silly questions you've been asked by omnivores
Has anyone have a clue if someone from PETA etc have tried to contact his wife
and put some sense into her at least?
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vegetarian_cat
"Herein lies our problem. If we level that much land to grow rice and whatever, then no other animal could live there except for some insect pest species. Which is very unfortunate."
what would you have said to him if you were the interviewer?
That's absurd, I can't believe Steve Irwin is that ignorant.
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So I visited my friend this weekend at her school, and not having seen her for a while she asked me if I was still doing "the whole veggie thing." I told her I had since become vegan and the whole weekend she asked what I could or could not eat in the dining hall at her dorm. She offered me a pop tart because I was hungry, but since it had milk products in it I declined. She said I was crazy and that I should just eat it. I asked her if it would be more acceptable if I had a disease or some kind of health problem that prevented me from eating animal byproducts, and she said yes.
So it's bad that I'm vegan because of ethical reasons, but it would be completely fine if it was because I had a disease. What?
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I think it might bother some people, to see people decline a "food" item where they would have no problem eating it, when the reason is for ethics and they see no ethical quandary eating it (or they do see some of what the problem is, but it is not enough to overcome their want of the item). So they must visualize you as being a person of enormous restraint, or as being extreme, or finicky and unreasonable. It can make it easier to continue doing the same thing they're doing, if they "can't" do it different, or if it'd be "unreasonable" to do it differently, by choice rather than absolute necessity.
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terem
So I visited my friend this weekend at her school, and not having seen her for a while she asked me if I was still doing "the whole veggie thing." I told her I had since become vegan and the whole weekend she asked what I could or could not eat in the dining hall at her dorm. She offered me a pop tart because I was hungry, but since it had milk products in it I declined. She said I was crazy and that I should just eat it. I asked her if it would be more acceptable if I had a disease or some kind of health problem that prevented me from eating animal byproducts, and she said yes.
So it's bad that I'm vegan because of ethical reasons, but it would be completely fine if it was because I had a disease. What?
This seems pretty standard in how non-vegans act. Toward me at least. I saw a youtube video of a person saying, "If you're a vegan because you want to lose weight and be more healthy, more power to you. If you're a vegan because you think animals are cute, then F*ck you!"
So, to be selfish in the sense of only caring about your looks is okay. But to be completely selfless due to your beliefs is NOT okay... nice.
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BJJNick
"If you're a vegan because you want to lose weight and be more healthy, more power to you. If you're a vegan because you think animals are cute, then F*ck you!"
So, to be selfish in the sense of only caring about your looks is okay. But to be completely selfless due to your beliefs is NOT okay... nice.
That's the sort of attitude that makes me really despair of human beings! :(
As you say BJJNick, they seem to think it's ok to be selfish but not to be considerate of other living beings! :confused:
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terem
I can't believe Steve Irwin is that ignorant.
Was, unfortunately.
There aren't that many things in the world that depress me quicker than youtube and its comment sections. :sad:
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re INDEX CARDS - I really, really want some. I want them laminated and in a box like a pack of playing cards, and I want each one to say on the back "Stupid Questions that Morons Ask" so that when I shuffle through and hold one up to read out the answer, that's what the stupid questioner sees.
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Ruby Rose
re INDEX CARDS - I really, really want some. I want them laminated and in a box like a pack of playing cards, and I want each one to say on the back "Stupid Questions that Morons Ask" so that when I shuffle through and hold one up to read out the answer, that's what the stupid questioner sees.
This idea just gets better and better. :bigsmile:
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Re: Things meat eaters say and do
http://www.vegetariansareevil.com/index.html wow I can't work out if that's for real or not...
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DiaShel
I did this with a Greenpeace "chugger" as you call it. Asked her how she can be an environmentalist and eat meat. She said she'd been thinking about it and would try. I ended up giving them money.
This annoys me with Greenpeace as well and we have something here called the Australian Conservation Foundation. There was a an online section about what I do to be green and the only veggie-ish option was "I reduce the amount of meal-based meals I eat per week" so I emailed them everytime I got it to say "include a vegan option because you guys know it has a lot to do with reducing your carbon footprint". No one ever replied and it's still not an option.
Stop being lazy and admit that being vegan is imortant.
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Shisha Fiend
That HAS to be a joke!
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DiaShel
That HAS to be a joke!
I have seen that site many times before but never actually read it. I finally read through its pages, and it is clearly not a joke. It just uses extreme descriptions of vegetarians, which makes you think it's a joke. If it were a joke, you would have to wonder who the hell would put so much research and work into such a website - certainly not a vegan trying to make fun of people.
Oh, I just found a page that says who "they" are.
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Vegetarians are not just evil, they are also inconsiderate idiots. Many of you have certainly, by now, had vegetarian friends over for the Thanksgiving holiday. Usually, we omnivorous folk are very considerate for the dietary 'requirements' of our neurotic cronies and we usually prepare enough non-meat items to ensure that our vegetarian guests can have a delightful time and partake in a unique holiday tradition which, in America, spans the generations, heritages and cultures of the fine people who make up our great nation.
Our first Thanksgiving with Vegetarian guests went something like this:
We are Americans and live abroad, therefore, we get together with other American expatriates once each year to share this uniquely American tradition. It was 'our turn' and Thanksgiving is usually a huge chore without the extra work of vegetarian guests - who generally expect that their eccentric dietary decision will be catered to in what seems to be a sort of bizarre acknowledgement of demonstrating their moral superiority. Nobody bothered to tell them that if there were, in fact any real vegans or vegetarians on the Mayflower some 400 years ago, they would have most certainly been the first to perish...
However, we are not combative vegetarians, so we prepared a mountain of vegetarian cuisine in addition to the usual Turkey-day fare, plenty of which would pass muster with the strictest vegans and fruitarians. In addition to turkey and the trimmings we had manicotti, eggplant parmigiana, pasta pesto, pasta e fagioli and a cornucopia of meatless delights to satisfy the most discriminating vegetarian (with a distinctly Italian-ethnic cant). While we were preparing this repast, we wondered if vegetarians prepare meat dishes for their omnivorous/carnivorous guests. Do they prepare them to look like vegetables?
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Sarabi
I have seen that site many times before but never actually read it. I finally read through its pages, and it is clearly not a joke. It just uses extreme descriptions of vegetarians, which makes you think it's a joke. If it were a joke, you would have to wonder who the hell would put so much research and work into such a website - certainly not a vegan trying to make fun of people.
Oh, I just found a page that says who "they" are.
This kind of stupidity shocks me every time. You think I'd be used to it.
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Heh, I read through it a while, and I couldn't imagine it as being serious. I mean, it's just so ignorant I thought it had to be satire. No omni I know is that stupid or that much of a jerk. But then again, I'm sure it is possible the people here are serious.
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Re: Silly questions you've been asked by omnivores
This happened to me earlier today in the cafe que at the library:
Randomer: "You're vegan? I don't trust vegans."
Me: "Why not?"
Randomer: "Well, Hitler was a vegetarian and so is Heather Mills."
Me: "Okay..."
Randomer: "And they are both horrible people who don't deserve to live."
Me: "Well Hitler is already dead and I don't see what Heather Mills has done to deserve to die"
Randomer: "God, vegans are so stupid!"
At this point it was his turn to be served, but I did'nt really know what to say to him anyway!
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Prawnil
Was, unfortunately.
There aren't that many things in the world that depress me quicker than youtube and its comment sections. :sad:
Ah oops, sorry about that.
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A colleague at work who I haven't seen for a while asked me today what I was up to and I told her about going to Brighton soon for the Vegan fair. She looked at me and said "so do you all wear funny clothes?" Bless her. I couldn't help smiling. This is the same person who once asked me if there were tomatoes in tinned tomatoes.
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"Hitler was a vegetarian."
My index card:
"Not true, he occasionally took on a vegetarian diet for digestive issues short term, but pretending for the moment you were correct, did you know he didn't smoke, too? Does that mean all non-smokers are evil?!"
This absurdly flawed logic is sometimes called reductio (or argumentum) ad Nazium
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Mahk
"Hitler was a vegetarian."
My index card:
"Not true, he
occasionally took on a vegetarian diet for digestive issues
short term, but pretending for the moment you were correct, did you know he didn't smoke, too? Does that mean all non-smokers are
evil?!"
This absurdly flawed logic is sometimes called
reductio (or argumentum) ad Nazium
I have told that to someone before who came out with that crap. Pol Pot and Stalin ate meat and they are famed for their love of human life!
The smoking thing was an arguement i used too.
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something often forgotten is how much compassion some people have in one half of their life and how much disregard for life and pain in their other. Himmler objected to hunting deer for sport but was responsible for the deaths of the countless many humans. Some people are able as part of their condition to separate themselves in this way allowing and perhaps causing acts of true horror. This is much the same as one who 'follows orders' justifying acts as being part of their job, those who are willing and able to inflict pain when told to do so by a person of authority and when people see but blinker themselves to homeless people and beggars on the street.
Meat eating is similar to this. People are taught by society to kill and eat animals when they know that it is wrong to kill and that animals do feal pain (rare it may be that they will admit this). They just shut out these facts and get on with it. A bit like flicking off a switch (that happens to be the alarm and sprinkler system before lighting a camp fire in a hotel bedroom!)
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Hi Rebecca, some people just want to pick fights; we don't have to argue with them.
All purpose conversation killer:
Well, I've learned to be nice to people I really dislike; have a nice day (with an icy smile and dead stare).
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Rebbecca
This happened to me earlier today in the cafe que at the library:
Randomer: "You're vegan? I don't trust vegans."
Me: "Why not?"
Randomer: "Well, Hitler was a vegetarian and so is Heather Mills."
Me: "Okay..."
Randomer: "And they are both horrible people who don't deserve to live."
Me: "Well Hitler is already dead and I don't see what Heather Mills has done to deserve to die"
Randomer: "God, vegans are so stupid!"
At this point it was his turn to be served, but I did'nt really know what to say to him anyway!
I would have liked to hear what he had to say about Heather Mills.
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Rebbecca
Randomer: "God, vegans are so stupid!"
:eek::mad:
What kind of person would say this too someone? I definitely would have lost it. You have great self control for not grabbing him by his hair and slamming his head into the counter as soon as he turned around.
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Rebbecca
This happened to me earlier today in the cafe que at the library:
Randomer: "You're vegan? I don't trust vegans."
Me: "Why not?"
Randomer: "Well, Hitler was a vegetarian and so is Heather Mills."
Me: "Okay..."
Randomer: "And they are both horrible people who don't deserve to live."
Me: "Well Hitler is already dead and I don't see what Heather Mills has done to deserve to die"
Randomer: "God, vegans are so stupid!"
At this point it was his turn to be served, but I did'nt really know what to say to him anyway!
Oooh! Ooohh! Just thought of a reply:
"Jeffrey Dahlmer(sp?) ate meat. I mean, if we're going to just toss around inherently flawed arguments..."
(apologies if someone else has already thought of that)
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buttons
Oooh! Ooohh! Just thought of a reply:
"Jeffrey Dahlmer(sp?) ate meat. I mean, if we're going to just toss around inherently flawed arguments..."
(apologies if someone else has already thought of that)
or "Hitler breathed oxygen, so therefore, unless you want to be a Nazi, you should stop breathing."
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Re: Silly questions you've been asked by omnivores
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Rebbecca
This happened to me earlier today in the cafe que at the library:
Randomer: "You're vegan? I don't trust vegans."
Me: "Why not?"
Randomer: "Well, Hitler was a vegetarian and so is Heather Mills."
Me: "Okay..."
Randomer: "And they are both horrible people who don't deserve to live."
Me: "Well Hitler is already dead and I don't see what Heather Mills has done to deserve to die"
Randomer: "God, vegans are so stupid!"
At this point it was his turn to be served, but I did'nt really know what to say to him anyway!
How about Stalin and president Mugabe eat meat and they are also horrible people?
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Re: Silly questions you've been asked by omnivores
Recently from a co-worker "Do you actually enjoy your food?" :rolleyes:
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If that pillock said to me that Hitler was vegetarian, I would probably say "actually he wasn't, and anyway, don't you know the difference between vegetarianism and veganism? God meat eaters are so stooopid!"
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Zero
Recently from a co-worker "Do you actually enjoy your food?" :rolleyes:
:rollseyes_ani::D
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Zero
Recently from a co-worker "Do you actually enjoy your food?" :rolleyes:
Of course not. Enjoyment is a frivolity, and leads to sin.
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Got these two last saturday,
If someone offered you a leather chair would you take it?
and this was a trick you out question
If animals are 90% water and you drink water aren't you drinking animals?
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Bartlebee
aren't you drinking animals?
That's a new level of dumb
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Re: Silly questions you've been asked by omnivores
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Rebbecca
This happened to me earlier today in the cafe que at the library:
Randomer: "You're vegan? I don't trust vegans."
Me: "Why not?"
Randomer: "Well, Hitler was a vegetarian and so is Heather Mills."
Me: "Okay..."
Randomer: "And they are both horrible people who don't deserve to live."
Me: "Well Hitler is already dead and I don't see what Heather Mills has done to deserve to die"
Randomer: "God, vegans are so stupid!"
At this point it was his turn to be served, but I did'nt really know what to say to him anyway!
Dude, you could've easily said, "So I should hate omnis because all the rapists, murderers, and child molesters that I've heard about have been omnis?"
Basically all the evil doers are animal eating beasts...
Vegetarians are pansies :P So Hitler is not in our circle.
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My team at work are having a quiz this evening to raise money for Red Nose Day at the council staff club. The girl organising it phoned in advance to get something sorted for me with regards to food. The head of catering said he had never heard of a 'what do you call it again, veee-gun?'. I told him nothing fancy would be needed, and gave him a couple of ideas. I just received a phone call from work (I'm on leave this week), apparently the so-called Head Of Catering is finding this far too hard a task to make me some veg without dairy and meat, with a side-salad with non-dairy dressing (I suggested balsamic vinegar. Surely every kitchen would have this??), so I am having to take my own food to eat there.
Someone who is meant to be the head of catering asking what a vegan is :confused: surely he's in the wrong profession! Good ol' Staffordshire County Council :rolleyes:
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Re: Silly questions you've been asked by omnivores
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Bartlebee
If animals are 90% water and you drink water aren't you drinking animals?
Surely by that logic then we're all cannibals :confused: Aren't humans about 60% water?
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yep, and we've (generally) been drinking water that's passed through at least 7 other human beings, we're drinking dinosaur pee and even rat pee every time we have a glass of water. Aquifer and glacial water may not have passed through other humans but will have passed through something else. Try not to let that bother you next time you take a glass of t-rex pee from the tap!:D:D:D
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Frosty
My team at work are having a quiz this evening to raise money for Red Nose Day at the council staff club. The girl organising it phoned in advance to get something sorted for me with regards to food. The head of catering said he had never heard of a 'what do you call it again, veee-gun?'. I told him nothing fancy would be needed, and gave him a couple of ideas. I just received a phone call from work (I'm on leave this week), apparently the so-called Head Of Catering is finding this far too hard a task to make me some veg without dairy and meat, with a side-salad with non-dairy dressing (I suggested balsamic vinegar. Surely every kitchen would have this??), so I am having to take my own food to eat there.
Someone who is meant to be the head of catering asking what a vegan is :confused: surely he's in the wrong profession! Good ol' Staffordshire County Council :rolleyes:
doesn't surprise me a bit in a world where there are so many people (including those who work in catering) who get vegans and pescatarians mixed up.