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I feel so bad for creating this thread but then again it's a great place to express how I really feel. XD
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Number one would be the lame, lame "If we weren't meant to eat animals then why are they made out of meat?"
Number two has to be "I can't be a vegetarian because I don't have the right blood type."
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vegandingo
Number one would be the lame, lame "If we weren't meant to eat animals then why are they made out of meat?"
Number two has to be "I can't be a vegetarian because I don't have the right blood type."
WOW! I never thought I see an excuse like that!
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If you mean the blood type excuse then I have to agree with you. Around here I hear this excuse often.
http://www.dadamo.com/
I feel dirty just posting the link.
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I had a long, long conversation with a guy yesterday. This is some of the things he said:
- If you don't think we should eat meat, then you don't believe in evolution. [I believe I said, "What?" And then talked about monkeys who are essentially herbivores. He told me what I said made no sense and then said the next statement, which is his idea of evolution.]
- Europeans ate meat and passed it on to our grandfathers, and fathers, and so on. [I think I just laughed at this because he made meat-eating out to be some sort of genetic trait rather than a habit or cultural custom.]
- Veganism is a new fashionable lifestyle that isn't actually good for you. [I explained Jainism and how they practice non-violence towards all living beings and that this is an old faith.]
- Meat makes you strong and healthy. [I believe I said, "How about I stick to my plant-based diet and you go on a strict all-meat diet and we'll see who's still strong and healthy at the end?" He said, "Why would I do that?" I replied with, "If we really need meat to make us strong and healthy than how can I survive without it and how come you couldn't survive by just eating meat?"
- I couldn't be Vegan because I like to cook. [Because Vegans never cook or don't know how to cook..]
- You only talk about studies that have a vegan agenda so how can I believe that? [Uhh.. I only linked him to this chart and talked about The China Study.]
And there was more stupidity, but those were the arguments that stood out. Believe me, I stood my ground and had an answer for everything he said. But it was kind of incredible to see him try and prove to me that Veganism was bad. He had the most poor debating skills; As soon as I gave him a well-established answer, he would jump to another stupid, blanket statement that was founded in nothing but personal beliefs without acknowledging the validity of the previous answer that I gave him.
I also gave the guy a few opportunities to stop the conversation and suggested that we could both bow out gracefully, but he kept calling me stupid.. I was fairly bored and I can get pretty stubborn if I'm insulted, so I carried on with the dumbest conversation I ever had.
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Crusty Rat
I've often heard "we should sort out human rights first, then animal rights" - generally from people who are doing nothing towards either cause.
Oh my goodness, I had this exact statement flung at me while I was having a debate about eating animals. Just that person's way of deflecting the topic so he didn't have to admit I had a serious point. I just wish I had the sense to respond with an argument like yours... still working out how to have a proper conversation with non-vegans about veganism. I'll get there!
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cacahead, you must have the patience of a saint!
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The 'if we didn't eat animals they would die out' excuse is lamer than the average intensive dairy cow living on monoculture grass harvested from vast expanses of land where most wildlife has been eliminated. Those cows end up so lame they can hardly walk, then they're shot. Why doesn't the stupid argument suffer the same fate?
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:rolleyes: Either people who come up with that one about animals dying out are taking the p, or they haven't thought about it for even a minute. (Hello koko by the way, how's yer bin?)
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TheHRchannel
WOW! I never thought I see an excuse like that!
You know what I heard? There was a high school girl who lived down the road from me. She wanted so badly to be vegan, but is severely allergic to most vegetables out there. The doctors told her she could die if she didn't eat animal proteins. She tried to limit it as much as possible, but didn't want to starve to death. That poor girl. :-(
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The lamest is probably this: " because animals have so low intelligent's that means they are made for us to torture and eat"
and: " plants die too, you are killing more eating plants than eating meat"
and: " vegetarians are bad for the environment because of the soy" (which is grown for farm animals):lol:
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Hello harpy I'm OK thanks, it's nice to see you're still here!
I've read that weird 'eating animals is loving them' argument that MarieAnn mentioned...I think it's sometimes inspired by hunter-gatherer respect for nature, but romanticised and transposed into modern western industrial society, where it has no integrity. In any case, it seems the Inuit at least are aware of the drawbacks of a death-dependent lifestyle, summed up in this quote:
'The great peril of our existence lies in the fact that our diet consists entirely of souls'.
vegeTERIan, it sounds like those doctors should be sent on a nutrition training course!
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kokopelli
In any case, it seems the Inuit at least are aware of the drawbacks of a death-dependent lifestyle, summed up in this quote:
'The great peril of our existence lies in the fact that our diet consists entirely of souls'.
Is that really an Inuit saying? That's really amazing... I wish all societies could have this much insight!
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What do you call an Eskimo from Essex?
An Inuit innit.
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Gwydion
What do you call an Eskimo from Essex?
An Inuit innit.
This is the lamest excuse thread, not the lamest joke thread :p
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I can do an even lamer joke.
Q. What do you call an Inuit snowhouse without toilet facilities?
A. An ig.
Lv:p
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I love the Inuit jokes!
Someone said 'I'd love to be vegetarian but I don't eat vegetables' to me a few days ago. Recently a few meat eaters have commented that they don't understand why vegetarians would want to eat (for example) fake chicken, because surely a vegetarian wouldn't want to eat fake chicken if they avoid real chicken.
I say that if someone who wants to give up meat, but likes the taste of it, finds that fake meat helps them stop eating real meat, then why not? People don't seem to realise that fake meat has been around for hundreds of years. For example, tofu and seitan were formed into 'mock duck' etc. and served at Buddhist temple restaurants to help wean people off meat.
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[QUOTE=vegandingo;697617]Number one would be the lame, lame "If we weren't meant to eat animals then why are they made out of meat?" [QUOTE]
WE are "made out of meat" too! eeewwwww. last year we had to dissect human cadavers at school, and it was incredibly disturbing to realize that you could easily put a human trapezius in a pan, sear it and tell people it's a butterfly steak, and most people probably wouldn't know the difference. The meat cuts that my roommates would prepare looked not much different from what we cut off the cadavers in lab. I was only vegetarian then, not yet vegan, but man I was so glad I wasn't a meat-eater during/after that class! I think I would have been sick.
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I never understand meat eater who complain about vegans and vegetarians eating fake meat. It seems to me that they don't understand the concept of being vegan. They think you just don't like meat.
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I never understand meat eater who complain about vegans and vegetarians eating fake meat. It seems to me that they don't understand the concept of being vegan. They think you just don't like meat.
I Know!!!!!
People who I otherwise thought were pretty smart just asked me that recently. I explained "fake" meant not real and I really just mind the killing/ tourture/ and decomposed animal parts myself.
yuck
LG
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I'm not sure if anyone posted this yet, but "Where am I going to get my protein and calcium?" Also, "Because meat tastes good". I also hate when people say when I tell them I'm vegan, "But if you're not killing them to drink their milk, then there's nothing wrong with it."
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I just remembered something I heard a lot as a child: That cows' farts are poisonous and pollute the Earth, so we need to kill them to avoid destroying the atmosphere. SO IRONIC IT'S PAINFUL.
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On saturday when talking about using wool from sheep and then eating them my mum said, 'but that life is all that animal has ever known, so its ok' :undecided:
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Hey guys,
I just got this comment:
'Hey I completely understand your way of live, and if the moral view of being a vegan makes you feel better than I'm happy for you. I personally believe eating meat and all together animals eating other animals is just the natural way of life (food chain, circle of life, etc). Honestly if no animals were hunted for food than the earth would quickly become overpopulated with certain animals and the balance of nature's animals would become disturbed. Animals in the wild eat other animals for a reason.
At the end of the day, each person is gonna follow their way of life (including diet) the way they want to. I personally don't hunt, but I enjoy eating meat and I personally believe it to be a necessity for me to obtain to nutrients I need. All in all there's no reason we can't all get along! After all, you're one less person I have to worry about sharing my steak with.'
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Has anyone else noticed the unfortunate link people make between being a 'alpha male' and a non-vegan diet?
I think they would come around if they thought about it for a moment; I mean I can't think of anything more opposing to that stereotype than adopting a diet that causes cruelty to poor defenseless animals.
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Has anyone else noticed the unfortunate link people make between being a 'alpha male' and a non-vegan diet?
I think they would come around if they thought about it for a moment; I mean I can't think of anything more opposing to that stereotype than adopting a diet that causes cruelty to poor defenseless animals.
YES!
It's absolutely ridiculous. For some reason they consider a plant based diet to be "girly" (read: "wimpy"). The latest incidence of this was when my brother was making some chicken dish the other day and my dad said, "let him... he's a boy, he needs his meat".
What?!
I can't wait til I get out of this house, I encounter so much anti-vegan rubbish from my own family members each day.
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rosederwelt
For some reason they consider a plant based diet to be "girly"
:)
I haven't heard that one before.... try showing them this link: http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/
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Yes airalien I've noticed this quite a bit. I got one particular friend who's like it. I presume it's all tied in to men being the hunters and women being gatherers. It's a shame really some people haven't evolved.
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When I was introduced to my friends partner and it was mentioned that I was vegan he said he could never possibly think of even going vegetarian cos he needs and loves meat soooo much and anyway its "more of a thing for chicks (ladies)". Bullshit.
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rosederwelt
For some reason they consider a plant based diet to be "girly" (read: "wimpy"). The latest incidence of this was when my brother was making some chicken dish the other day and my dad said, "let him... he's a boy, he needs his meat".
Not an uncommon view among the people I've known. My revenge will be to outlive them all, I say jokingly.
Leedsveg
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vegandingo
Number two has to be "I can't be a vegetarian because I don't have the right blood type."
Aha someone said that to be last week. :hmm:
Also: "the male chickens will all fight and kill each other anyway"
Also I like it when you tell someone you're vegan and they start trying to justify themselves, like "I only eat free range meat" or "I don't eat meat much".
I love asking meat eaters if they would eat a dog or a cat (particularly if they have a dog or a cat as a pet); they're always horrified by the idea, but can't explain how it's different from eating a pig. :hmm:
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"cos turkey is better than prozac"
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porcupine_treats
Aha someone said that to be last week. :hmm:
Also: "the male chickens will all fight and kill each other anyway"
Also I like it when you tell someone you're vegan and they start trying to justify themselves, like "I only eat free range meat" or "I don't eat meat much".
I love asking meat eaters if they would eat a dog or a cat (particularly if they have a dog or a cat as a pet); they're always horrified by the idea, but can't explain how it's different from eating a pig. :hmm:
The omnivores didn't even bother to see what free range really is. I told them it only refers to what animals are fed but the killing methods are the same.
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A close friend of mine said "I would go vegan, but a lot of my friends are doing it and I don't want to follow the trend." What nonsense
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Not an "excuse" as such, but this obnoxious person yesterday said in front of me - and two vegetarians - 'At this camp I was at, Wednesday was veg day. Why the hell should we have go without meat for the sake of what, 12 people?'
I was so shocked, I didn't know what to say. One meal without meat? Boo hoo.
This was also after the other meat eater at the table had said although she loved meat, it was nice to have vegetable curries, etc. So the meat-fanatic wasn't really going to get anyone to agree with her.
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I find it so ironic when people say: "I love animals, I'd never hurt them, but I couldn't give up meat..."
I also find it hypocritical when there is a report of animal abuse on the news and there is an outcry from people who think it's wrong and disgusting, while at the same time, they're tucking into their meat-based dinner and shaking their heads at what a disgusting world we live in, for such cruel acts to happen on such innocent animals.
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"God created us to eat animals! It's our responsibility to comtrol the animal population so that there won't be too many of them!"
And you do that by factory-farming them?!
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i've only been Vegan for 10 months and i've not had many discussions about it in truth so i have no first hand excuses to share, although i have seen plenty online 'n' such.
The thing that always irritates me when people say they love animals and yet consume animal products still (like everyone in my family). All animals, like all people deserve respect, love and freedom. Having spent all my life living with my family (i am 26, closing in on 27), since going Vegan i find it harder and harder each day to cope with the amount of animal based products they consume and use daily.
Of course i understand every Vegan is on a mission to create a better world for all upon the earth and changes to society take time but peoples reasons for not wanting to Vegan are really hard to understand, especially those that start with "i would go Vegan but..." because they seem to fully acknowledge the abuse, murder and slavery but for some purely selfish reason they won't make the change in their lives.
Still onwards i'll press to make the Vegan word heard and no lame excuses will do.
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"If I learned myself about factory farming, it would probably put me off as I love animals. But I just love cheese too much."