yes, im sure heather has has given viva more financial support over a shorter period of time than he ever did.
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I read an article this morning that she was keen to get naked for PETA fur campaigns.
PETA haven't commented yet.
.........and anyway i still don't even think that a person should be automatically entitled to take earnings from their partner just because they have been legally united, whoever that person is.
no, i oppose the idea of sponging off one's ex partner above and beyond what one needs and/or deserves. If two people start out together with nothing and earn their money together, then i feel it only fair that money would be divided equally if the couple split up.
If someone marries someone else who has a house and money they privately earned before the partnership, then i don't necessarily believe that the partner who came into the relationship with less deserves to walk out with an equal division of riches.
I do believe that fathers should take responsibility for their children but that (to me) is another matter.
Should Paul give only the average amount of child support to help raise Beatrice, say whatever the national average is, or should he pay more than average because he is rich? I think he should pay much more than average and I see his obligation to Heather similarly. You are right that there are several factors that come to play: time together, children together, finances prior to merger, pre nups, finances gained together during the merger etc, but without a pre nup, Paul risked losing a lot. My understanding is she got 24 million or so (?), that doesn't seem right to me considering its only 3% of his claimed worth. I would agree 50% is way too much but 3% seems too little, especially if it is really 1.5% as she claims and pre-divorce estimates seem to support. Just my 2 pence.
In terms of the settlement amount there is the issue of her earning ability which I assume has been damaged by the negative press she has had during the marriage - it is hard to see how she could go back to supporting herself in the same way she did before (though I admit I don't know too much about her).
I do find it strange that Paul never went vegan. I don't think Heather was even a vegetarian when they met was she? Yet on becoming educated by her association with him she did the logical thing and became vegan. He has been exposed to the same, if not more, information but remains veggie. :undecided:
ok, i'm going to stop commenting here about Heather Mills.
It's true i do have some issues with her (reported) behaviour, and some general issues with people who marry rich partners and then go all-out to get whopping divorce settlements -
BUT
i do admire a lot of the work she does for charity, and i respect her as a vegan.
When I heard about this I was so excited and thought what a wonderful oppritunity it would be to try and introduce Veganism into the BX. However, I have heard the debate that this food may go wasted and also that the people of Hunts Point can't 'afford' to continue such a lifestyle.
I feel that to make an effort like this effective it needs to be in combination with education. I live in an area outside of the bronx and I dont think the people living in this area have knowledge of Vegan foods or lifestyle. To them they may be seen as 'discusting' or too expensive.
With all of that said, My father runs a market in Hunts Point, so I am actively trying to get involved. I would like to get a closer look at how the food is being administered and try to educate as much as possible. not only so this food doesnt go to waste but more importantly, maybe I will be able to get one or two people to see all of the benifits from a Vegan diet. I am excited to have the chance to share my passion. Who knows, I could change someones life!
Oh please. It's not about what you think, it's the fact that you have deliberately and obtusely misinterpreted what I have written to suit your own agenda. If you can show where I am slagging off her veganism then I will apologise. If you can actually read what I have written then you will see that I am supportive.
I notice eve hasn't been back..
Let's not keep saying that this is simply because she's a "strong woman". The media, as I have pointed out previously, will dislike her for their own potentially spurious reasons of which sexism may be one, but I know of strong and vocal women in the public eye who do not feel the need to manufacture and embellish details about their lives for no apparent reason.
All I'm saying is I wish she was able to curb her flakey side when perceived as the current face of veganism, but I wish her well in her efforts since she is obviously well meaning herself.
I don't read the tabloids or gossip mags/columns, I didn't even see the documentary about her so I can't really say I know much about the lies she's said to have told. I've seen videos of her work for animal rights, and I'm very supportive of it. I wouldn't know what to believe about her private life, but either way it doesn't affect my view of her, as to me it is just that - her private life. I did watch that clip that Fiamma posted, and I thought the reporter did a really bad job and treated her really unfairly, but then again it is channel 5 so I wouldn't expect any better really.
i havent read much of this thread, but everytime i log on and see this thread I have the urge to tell some of my slightly naughty heather mills jokes:p
but i wont:D
for what its worth, i feel its very difficult to judge someone from their media personality, yet there are +135 posts here about someone presumably nobody here has met.
it did also cross my mind as to whether she was a member here, dont remember seeing her intro posts though:p:D
i think your initial response to me was aimed at what i said in reply to cobweb(?);
"he may well be, but appears more important to slag off someone trying to further the vegan cause.
go figure............"
when i said "HE" i was reffering to richard bacon, not you. you appear to have taken it that i was talking about you, i wasnt.
i think its irrelevant if you were not slagging off her veganism. but just slagging her off for something else. you were still slagging (i dont like that word, but we all know what we're trying to say) her off.
i really dont care about her private life, its something ill never know the truth about. what i care about is vegans slagging off other vegans, (vegans that ARE doing something) because of stuff theyve read in newspapers or seen on tv.
I don't watch telly or read newspapers. The whole idea of "celebrity" baffles me.
I can't help wondering though, if I married, then divorced, someone famous, would there be a four page argument on here about whether I was wonderful for being vegan or terrible for not doing enough for veganism ?
I imagine the media would do what they normally do - build you up so that you can fall all the further when they knock you down!
He's not my type, but then again, for £24 million, I'm anybody's. :p
My sincere apologies then. Sorry, I must have been having a bad day/week.x
She should stick to talking about her veganism in tv interviews then or expect some reaction. To be fair I think her worst moments in the interviews I have seen have come because she felt pressured by the inequity of the situation with Sir (ugh) Paul and his media mates to say things which were not the truth (and provable as such) in order to try to even the score. Not particularly advisable, but entirely understandable, she must have felt quite scared and outnumbered with all the unjustified vilification.
I acknowledge her veganism and respect it.
:D lovin your posts emzy n BGW
LMAO! :devil:
Famous ay? You been looking on you tube? :eek::D
Hey, you can't post a reply like that without giving the links. :p
new Heather Mills story (apologies for the link being from the Daily Mail!):
Vegan Heather Mills buys Fish Cafe & takes fish off the menu
She has never been one to shy away from controversy.
So when Heather Mills decided to buy a popular fish restaurant near her home, her first move was obvious: take fish off the menu.
Miss Mills plans to turn the seaside eaterie into a vegan restaurant, believed to be the first in a planned worldwide chain.
And there was bad news for staff as well as seafood-loving clientele: the current owner has laid them off and told them they will not be re-employed when the renovated cafe re-opens.
Miss Mills, 41, signed the deal to take over the Big Fish Cafe near her home in Hove, East Sussex, on Friday.
After initially agreeing to part with £255,000, Miss Mills, who clinched a £24million settlement in her divorce from Sir Paul McCartney, forced the price down to £140,000.
Former owner Nick Short said about the price fall: 'I have been well and truly worked over by Heather.'
He said the ex-glamour model had eaten there 'about 20 times' with Bea, her five-year-old daughter by Sir Paul.
'She even came in with Sir Paul before the divorce,' said Mr Short.
'I sold traditional fry-ups but veggie food was on the menu, too. They'd have veggie breakfasts and soya milk tea. Heather said she'd like to buy the place if it came on the market.
'Last July I decided to sell so I got in touch. I went to see her at her home and we made a verbal agreement for £255,000. That was later agreed in writing.
'The arrangement changed in November,' Mr Short told the Sunday Mirror. 'I got a letter from her lawyer saying the price had dropped to £140,000. It blamed the credit crunch and the "current economic climate".
'Her lawyer said there were other issues such as the cost of the ground rent going up and the need to renovate the windows. I was shocked, absolutely gutted.'
And he claimed: 'I'd put off other buyers who were offering the full price thinking I had a deal with Heather. There was nowhere else I could go.'
Mr Short, 49, from nearby Shoreham, added: 'At the end of the day she's got £24million in the bank - £100,000 is not a lot to her, but it is to me.'
He said Heather and her advisers had no plans to take on his two full-time and four part-time staff so he had to lay them off. 'They were like extended family,' he said. 'They all needed the money and the work.
'Heather told me she thinks the veggie cafe idea can work. I have my doubts though. I'm not sure how successful a vegan restaurant is going to be there.'
Last night, Miss Mills's publicist said: 'The real estate market around the country is falling and no one forced the owner to sell. I think Hove, any town really, will be well served by a healthy foods cafe like this.'
That's excellent. I shall make special efforts to frequent it even when other options are nearer.
She may be a bit radio rental but this is great. Nice one Heather.
I loved the previous owner's sob story, like she shouldn't try to get the best deal like anybody else and that any new proprietor wouldn't look to change the staff, especially if the ethos and menu had changed totally. Daily Mail, gah.
I hope she makes a success of her vegan restaurant and opens a chain of them. :)
Reading the comments under the Mail article is funny. Mail readers are such w@nkers.
I can get to the restaurant on my bike by cycling along the sea front and will do so as often as possible. I needed a reason for a daily bike ride since I work from home.
I'll go more often just to p1ss off the Mail readers.
:D
How dare she buy a building yet not immediately hire the previous employees who worked in it (she's never interviewed) for her new different business!
How dare she attempt to save money and not over pay; remember how much money she got in the divorce? That's how we determine the price of goods and property for divorced women, not the intrinsic value of the goods or property!
"Former owner Nick Short said about the price fall: 'I have been well and truly worked over by Heather.'
How dare she negotiate for a good price. Women in business ventures? Next thing you know homosexuals will be allowed to do this sort of thing!
:rolleyes: [My entire post was sarcastic, just to be sure people understand. The way that "newspaper" article was written was offensive. I didn't bother reading the comments.]