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veggiemaya- the central nervous system= ability to feel pain argument comes in handy a lot.
Isn't it funny how soy beans are scary, but carcass is aok... ?
healthy- yeah, what else can we do but joke or look like crazy angry people? hopefully one of them will have a realization of some kind, but i think its easier to stay ignorant and make fun.
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Isn't it funny how soy beans are scary, but carcass is aok... ?.
REALLY!
Other "scary" items: dried seaweed; kimchi; an entire can of chickpeas; and of course, TOFU! :p
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I hear ya, VeggieMaya -- every damn day I have to hear comments in the lunchroom. I just joke around with them and it's become very light-hearted lately, thank god!!!
People make fun of my food and I say, "Awww, you're eating Wilbur!" (the pig from "Charlotte's Web") ... everyone laughs and that's that ... *sigh* one of these days it will sink in with them.
oh..you're good. i have a problem with being so passive sometimes. i get to a point where i can just feel myself getting frustrated and instead of being constructive, something like "yeah? and you're ugly!" will come out. haha, jk! oh well...something to file under "things to work on"
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Veggie Maya, yeah, I had those days too where I'd say shit like, "Well, look how rockin' my body is...." but I'd prefer not to go that route anymore, it creates too much animosity, especially amongst women.
I don't blame you though ... it's so hard to deal with ignorance ... it's a constant battle.
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veggiemaya- the central nervous system= ability to feel pain argument comes in handy a lot.
Isn't it funny how soy beans are scary, but carcass is aok... ?
healthy- yeah, what else can we do but joke or look like crazy angry people? hopefully one of them will have a realization of some kind, but i think its easier to stay ignorant and make fun.
yes, i have to remember to remain calm so that i can answer with facts instead of just getting aggravated.
by the way, i like the quote you have about the snowflakes..may i ask how you went about getting that to show up in your posts? i tried to do that and i wasn't able to figure it out. could have been having an ADD moment but.. ;)
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sure. click on 'control panel' (upper left), then 'edit signature' (left hand column, top choice) and 'save' once you've typed it in.
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...ah I feel at home here where my inherent rude nature is appreciated!
'bout the plants-feel-pain: who's signature was it... "not a vegan because I love animals but because I hate plants"
Plenty of room there to remark on potatoes screaming in the microwave and lettuce heads lopped off with one blow... sometimes agreeing with idiots is the best argument!
Wish I could use one of my sunset pics, VeggieMaya, but can't figure out resizing...
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Sometimes they really are never gonna get it. I get asked about the AR demos I go on at weekends like, " so how was your animal thing at the weekend?" My reply is always, "yeah it was great! Thanks for asking!" Pissing them off. But then I've got to the point where 90 people a day, who see me everyday ask me the same thing everyday, "So how's Emzy today?" My reply is always and consistently in my most sarcastic voice ever, " yeah I'm fantastic!" Then I deal with their paperwork and say nothing more to them. If people could come up with something better to say to me maybe I might be more receptive. However this is probably due to the fact that 1) I hate my job 2) their anti vegan stupidness just gets my back up.
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Emzy, the same questions every day irk me too. It's so mechanical.
I wish people were more like they were as children, asking "What did you dream about last night?" rather than the homogenized: "How was your weekend?" and not really caring, only waiting to share about theirs.
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Sometimes they really are never gonna get it. I get asked about the AR demos I go on at weekends like, " so how was your animal thing at the weekend?" My reply is always, "yeah it was great! Thanks for asking!" Pissing them off. But then I've got to the point where 90 people a day, who see me everyday ask me the same thing everyday, "So how's Emzy today?" My reply is always and consistently in my most sarcastic voice ever, " yeah I'm fantastic!" Then I deal with their paperwork and say nothing more to them. If people could come up with something better to say to me maybe I might be more receptive. However this is probably due to the fact that 1) I hate my job 2) their anti vegan stupidness just gets my back up.
i know what you mean. i have always been so anti-fake that it may be interpreted as rude, but if i am not interested in how someone's weekend was..i won't ask. and i dont want them to ask me if they really don't care about mine. but, so goes the disingenuous nature of human beings. my problem is that i work with people that are just completely ignorant about so many things...then when they hear me talk about it, they could care less. all the while they will sit there going back and forth about the most recent exciting stories out of the Star magazine. and i also have strong views politically...oh god dont even get me started about when they bring that up with me. i have to just end it quick or it can get ugly.
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i know what you mean. i have always been so anti-fake that it may be interpreted as rude, but if i am not interested in how someone's weekend was..i won't ask. and i dont want them to ask me if they really don't care about mine.
i could have written that.
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but, so goes the disingenuous nature of human beings. my problem is that i work with people that are just completely ignorant about so many things...then when they hear me talk about it, they could care less. all the while they will sit there going back and forth about the most recent exciting stories out of the Star magazine. and i also have strong views politically...oh god dont even get me started about when they bring that up with me. i have to just end it quick or it can get ugly.
i actually had a short casual conversation at work today about this very thing. talking about veganism at work is just as bad of an idea as talking about politics or religion. i wont do it anymore.
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i could have written that. [/font][/font]
[font=Book Antiqua]i actually had a short casual conversation at work today about this very thing. talking about veganism at work is just as bad of an idea as talking about politics or religion. i wont do it anymore.
I really try not to..but before you know it, someone is standing there in the room talking to someone else about something involving politics...and i can tell they are completely uninformed about what is really going on..and it just gets to me. the problem is...they can be outspoken about what they stand behind (even when they cant really explain fully what it is) just because it is "the norm"...but if i am just as outspoken about my beliefs..or lack thereof in the religious category...there i go getting labeled weird again! :rolleyes:
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Wow! I'm glad others out there get fed up with the smae questions day in day out. I just thought it was because I have quite a short fuse anyway. You know the ideal things people could say to me:
1) Hey Em! I went to see an awesome band last night! have you heard of them? (would never happen! I'm 22 and everyone else is nearly 50/60 with occassional 40 year old slapped in there/ Not being ageist - just the music I like really doesn't appeal to older people)
2) I read about this animal rights demo at the weekend. What do you think of it!!?
3) Em, I know you're having a shit day so I won't bother asking how you are doing. You give the same answer everyday anyway! (Now that would get me talking lol)
4) Or general questions like - did you see this at the weekend? What did you think? Do you like this food? What do you think it means if....? Man what a shitty day I had today....I bet you'res wan't as bad? etc etc etc
IF I HEAR "how's Emzy today?" or " cheer up love it might never happen!" I think I'll scream!!!!
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IF I HEAR "how's Emzy today?" or " cheer up love it might never happen!" I think I'll scream!!!!
what does "cheer up love it might never happen" even mean? and who are they to tell you what your emotional state should be?? haha! ya know? i love when people say.."smile, its not that bad". oh ok, because you know me so well that you can make that assumption? i never could understand that. and perhaps i smile all the time...at people that i feel deserve one! don't get me wrong, i am not a total bitch..i was just never a fan of the pretentious folk. :)
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Whoa, one time someone said, "Smile it ain't that bad" to me days after my grandmother died --- I TOTALLY went off on them.
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Whoa, one time someone said, "Smile it ain't that bad" to me days after my grandmother died --- I TOTALLY went off on them.
there ya go!! but i bet you they will think twice before ever asking anyone that question again!
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Over the holidays my mother called me up to tell me all about the fact that not only were she and my sibs having a gigantic turkey for dinner, but that they were also having a gigantic chicken. She went on and on and ON about the enormity of the chicken until I said, "It's big because it's flavored with delicious human growth hormone - just the way you guys like it!". She hung up soon after that.
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....cheer up Emzy! it can only get worse...... couldn't resist :D
Those work colleagues are there to teach us how to get along with people we don't like. God knows I have had my lessons.
Answer to weekend Q: thanks for asking; I hope yours was as good. :rolleyes:
As miserable as some of my ex-workmates were to be around, I knew that they would risk their lives to pull me from a fire or would come to the hospital everyday if I had been hit by a truck. But oh, how I had to remind myself!
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Yeh thanks for winding me up guys :rolleyes:
"Cheer up love, it might never happen!" - I dunno what might never happen and I keep asking and they just look at me with a blank face!
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Yeh thanks for winding me up guys :rolleyes:
"Cheer up love, it might never happen!" - I dunno what might never happen and I keep asking and they just look at me with a blank face!
I think they just look at you blank because they don't know what to say as they are not expecting a response.
It's just one of those annoying sayings that people use. It annoys the heck out of me too.
I was out with some friends last week and some girl told me to "Cheer up!" my response was "I am perfectly content".
Some people just seem to think you should walk around with a big stupid smile on your face constantly.
People have told me I look mean or intimidating at times but I think has more to do with me being 6'3" and my deep set eyes, I can hardly help that. :p
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Pat you have such a positive attitude! I'm learning a lot of that as I go along, and your words are helping me -- so thanks!
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If I'm arguing with ignorance, I usually go with the old standby:
"Uhhhh... you're going to die sooner than me from heart complications some sort of painful disease... unless of course karma catches up with you and someone rapes you, takes away your offspring to sell for someone's $25.00 entree at a 5-star restaurant, and then takes all the milk that was meant for that offspring for years and years until you're spent and are no longer able to even stand or walk, then hang you by your ankles and slit your throat causing you to bleed to death, remove your hair by burning it off, hopefully when you still have a pulse, then cut you up and package you, and then send you off to be served from the dollar menu at a fast food joint. In which case, I would wish for the heart problems."
Usually, that does the trick for me.
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"Because Tofu needs to be taught a good lesson!"
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When someone asks me in a snarky tone how my meal is, I'll answer that it's good, then ask about theirs. When they say that their slab of flesh is great, I smile and say, "Glad you like it! It's the tears that make it so tasty."
:)
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to "wow- this is actually good!" (the usual response when i feed my friends vegan things) I usually respond "yah, its the complete lack of guilt that goes with it."
or when people use "god made animals for us to eat" I'll use "if god made slaughterhouses, Satanism's sounding better every day" or the more pc "then i'd hate to see Satan's version of hell"
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or when people use "god made animals for us to eat" I'll use "if god made slaughterhouses, Satanism's sounding better every day" or the more pc "then i'd hate to see Satan's version of hell"
in that situation i might have to go with "if you can prove to me there even is a god, then i may just consider that a viable thought"
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in that situation i might have to go with "if you can prove to me there even is a god, then i may just consider that a viable thought"
haha yah, i'd use that too except then I'd feel the need to go into a long-winded explanation on my religious beliefs, and i'd probably end up defending those as well as my dietary choices. *sigh*
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haha yah, i'd use that too except then I'd feel the need to go into a long-winded explanation on my religious beliefs, and i'd probably end up defending those as well as my dietary choices. *sigh*
i have to admit...i love that debate almost as much. sometimes more, depending on the mood i'm in. and i find that somehow its easier to get them to the point where they can't defend their religion, than it is to get them to where they can't defend eating meat.
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"I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals;
it's because I hate vegetables." -Woody Allen
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^^ haha, this one works like a charm with closed-minded omni's who are very hostile and verbally attack you about being vegan...it always shuts them up instantly.
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Hallo all! I'm very excited to have just joined the forum! :)
After a big-time ephiphany (aided by Fast Food Nation), I've been a happy vegan for (all of) six months. I'm not preachy, but at family get-togethers and at school (I'm a law student), the fact that I don't eat meat, dairy, or eggs sometimes comes up. Now, I don't give a flying patootie about what other people think about me, or about my choices - but sometimes (and you all know what I mean) I want to totally slap someone silly with my response. The old "raising and slaughterhouse conditions, animals are our friends, health concerns, and general ickiness" just sometimes doesn't fly!! I know these are good reasons, but to someone who isn't vegan, such reasons rarely make any sense! Plus they usually raise the "vegan preacher" defenses, and the people refuse to listen to a word. :(
So here's my question: do any of you have any fantastic, witty comebacks for the annoying dork who sometimes sneers, "You don't eat meat?" or the equivalent, "What are you, some kind of freak?"
Happily, these situations only come across once in a blue moon, but boy would I love to be able to snap back when they do! Childish, I know, but we've all been there! So best wishes to all, and thank you for your thoughts!!!
:) seviya
The one I normally save for these situations is, 'you seem to be assuming that I actually give a s##t what you think' you can replace 'give a s##t' with 'care' in polite circles. Said in a light friendly tone to friends or in any tome you fancy to the fat t##ts who seem to ask me.
My all time favourite is 'they say eating meat takes ten years off your life, can I get you another beefburger??'
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Also: "...don't eat meat?!" No, I bury dead meat not eat it.
"...some kind of freak?" Ya, I'ma freak and your really ordinary.
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That's right! And who wants to be ordinary ??? Not me! :)
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Somebody said to me that veganism is a lifestyle choice and if I make it a moral one then it makes me a zealot, makes me superior and alienates people. If I subscribe to veganism because I believe that it is moral to do so then that means I am criminalising him as a meat eater and am putting myself on a pedestool.
I didn't really know how to reply to that because I've never preached at anybody or claimed myself to be superior nor do I understand that I am acting like omnis are below me. :confused:
How can I come back to that because I really don't see the logic in that as an intelligent argument?
I didn't even talk about morals... I put up a link about famous veg*ns and said who were my favourites. Somebody mentioned the environment and I said that maybe environmentalism would be a better way to promote it as a lot of people don't really want to hear about animal welfare or animal rights. Which to be fair is true in my experience.
It actually hurt me a it because he said that something I wrote on facebook had alienated a lot of people I know (who actually discusses what other people put on Facebook? And I couldn't see how it was offensive, I have even had friends saying it wasn't)... Now I wonder if some of my mates hate me, or if he's been stirring trouble.
tell the twat to stop preaching anti-veganism to you.
If he's saying things like that he'd putting himself on a pedestal by telling YOU what YOU think like he's so clever he can suss you out.
Tell him if he's an omni for moral reasons, then it's exactly the same. But no one would be an omni for moral reasons, as it's WRONG.
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"open your ignorant mind and shut your ignorant gob"
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"open your ignorant mind and shut your ignorant gob"
i love it!:D
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:D yay I'm glad people likes it
I've thought some more since reading this thread it's been so helpful
I think I'll say when someone nexts scoffs "why are you a vegan?"
"Why are you a meat eater? As keeping livestock is a bigger cause of global warming than all of the worlds transport including flying, and dozens of billions of animals are killed a year for no other reason than peoples greed, you need to justify your contributing to it, not me."
Look long written down but only a couple of second if you say it. Or you can put 2 other fact in instead of them, but include a "green" reason as it's taken more seriously than animal rights.
This one's good:
"why are you a meat eater? you justify contributing to an industry that feeds livestock enough grain to feed 250 million people in the UK alone while 30 million people starve. I don't need to justify myself."
here's a whole load of facts:
http://www.energygrid.com/animals/veg101.html
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I think it was AMF who first mentioned the one about the strawberry harvest a long time ago. I've actually used it and it's shut some people right up! :D
So when someone says "Well, you eat plants and plants have feelings too".
Then you can say "Well, let's watch a video of a strawberry harvest and then lets watch a video of some cows being slaughtered, and THEN we can talk about that".
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up on a pedestal, eh?
Tell him you climbed up there for safety from the flesh-eating zombies all around you. We taste just like pork after all......