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I REALLY object to the title of this thread and the negative comments from some people.
The Body Shop was a bloody revolution when it started and has educated more people about issues like animal testing and the plight of indigenous people worldwide.
Anita Roddick has done more to improve the world than all of us put together. What a shame she's not perfect.
I lived with a staff member of Brisbane Body Shop so I do have some inside knowledge.
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Very true Geoff.
I think with her work most people would be unaware of what's involved in Animal Testing.
Also, what's wrong with someone making money in this world just because they're affiliated with something that's seen to be ethical? The head of Unilever earn's a heck of a lot more...
The biggest shame in all of this is the loss of a High Street identity, but to be honest that's been happening gradually since it went public years ago.
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Well, now that one of the biggest animal testing firms on cosmetics has taken over The Body Shop, id rather buy my make up from elsewhere I think. I jsut went in to The Body Shop and gave my card back and told them why. But on the way back...I was thinking. I really do not want to give L'Oreal any of my money but what if we all kept on buying from TBS, do u think L'oreal will realise that this is where the money is and maybe give L'Oreal a think on its testing policies? Or on the other hand, will they just be catering for two markets and carry on as they are, and take my money gladly without a seconds thought?
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I think everyone should by cruelty-free and animal free cosmetics. Unless a product is both, boycott them!
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.I was thinking. I really do not want to give L'Oreal any of my money but what if we all kept on buying from TBS, do u think L'oreal will realise that this is where the money is and maybe give L'Oreal a think on its testing policies?
I think that's a good point, Saucy. If people are going to boycott a company, they should tell them why (as you did) otherwise they have no incentive to change.
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Annit Roddick says she was "seduced" by their French charm. Their money more like.
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I'm also very disappointed by this. I've not bought anything in the body shop for years, not because of ethical issues but because their products are just a bit pants really imho. Apparently Dame Anita Roddick is going to give away all her millions, why couldn't she have sold her company (probably for less) to somebody ethical and cut out the evil middle man?
On the other hand I LOVE lush, I'm a bit addicted I think! Yes not everything is vegan but the things that are I think are totally amazing. The owner of Lush, Mark Constantine used to work for TBS and invented a lot of their products in the olden days when they were good. He invented bath bombs but TBS said no and that noone would ever buy them, but now look who's copying lush!
B never to busy to beautiful is also great for things like bath stuff and perfume but their make up nearly all has lanolin or beeswax in it. I used to have a list but can't find it at the moment.
There is a section of the lush forum www.lushforum.co.uk which is dedicated to bnever so you could post there and someone might know the answer. There's a lot of vegans on that forum too!
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Oh yeah girls, for great skincare products check out Liz Earle http://www.lizearle.com I use lots of their stuff and can strongly recommend the moisturiser which my mum's hooked on as well. They send you a lil sample tube of something free with your order too which is great for holidays :D
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Thanks Feral, im looking at new skin care products and know Liz Earle doesnt test on animals. Not sure if most of her stuff is vegan tho but will have a look at that site. xx
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No problem saucy, some of the things I bought before going vegan have no animal ingredients so some of the stuff will be.
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Email sell-outs!
The Body Shop is now owned by animal testers, L'Oreal. Send The Body Shop some emails telling them you disagree with their decision and that they lost a customer.
http://thebodyshop.com/bodyshop/help...hebodyshop.jsp
investor.relations@the-body-shop.com
tbs.athome@bodyshop.com
http://www.thebodyshopinternational....gl/contact.jsp
(under General Enquiries enter your country)
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Here is a sample letter:
The Body Shop,
I was very, very disappointed when I learned that The Body Shop will be sold to L'Oreal, even though they test on animals. L'Oreal's majority shareholders are Nestle. Nestle has a history of abusing human rights (they were sued for using child labor). I was a customer of The Body Shop because of the ethical standards it supposedly has. Now that The Body Shop is owned by animal testers I no longer will buy anything from The Body Shop ever again. My family, friends and associates also agree to never buy anything from The Body Shop because of L'Oreal's ownership of it.
Thank you for your time,
___________
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Thanks for the sample letter there, I would've had no idea what to write otherwise ;)
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i emailed them, and all i got back was a standard reply with an attachment of Anita Roddick's press release. :rolleyes:
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Blah blah blah. I guess this is the standard reply?
Dear Mike and Nadine
Thank you for your email.
For 30 years The Body Shop has been a force for positive social and environmental change across the world. In more than 2000 stores across the world we operate our business according to five core principles: Support Community Trade, Defend Human Rights, Against Animal Testing, Activate Self-Esteem, and Protect Our Planet.
The news that the boards of L’Oreal and The Body Shop have reached an agreement on the terms of a recommended cash offer made by L’Oreal will not alter the principles of The Body Shop. The Body Shop intends to remain a pioneering ethical retailer offering affordable prestige quality products and campaigning for social and environmental change.
Let us be clear, The Body Shop is an ethically-driven company. For example, through determined campaigning and with the support of over four million customers, The Body Shop was instrumental in securing UK and European bans on animal testing for cosmetic purposes. We were the first international cosmetics brand to be awarded the Humane Cosmetics Standard for our Against Animal Testing policy, which is viewed as best practice by leading animal welfare groups. Our policy ensures that we will not purchase any ingredient that has been tested or retested on animals for cosmetic purposes since at least 31 December 1990. We intend to continue to demand that all of our suppliers adhere to our standards, and our strict audit systems will remain in place to safeguard the integrity of our Against Animal Testing Policy.
In 2005, the Royal Society for Prevention of Cruelty Against Animals (RSPCA) applauded The Body Shop for its commitment to this principle. This month (March 2006) The Body Shop was selected as “Best Cruelty Free Cosmetics” in the first PETA Europe Progress Awards. We are incredibly proud of both these honours. We have never tested our products or ingredients on animals, nor commissioned others to do so on our behalf.
Over 15 years ago The Body Shop created its own fair trade programme called Community Trade. By satisfying our demand for ingredients, gifts and accessories in a fair way we help create sustainable trading relationships with marginalised communities around the world. Working with 30 suppliers across 23 countries Community Trade benefits the lives of more than 15,000 families. From Australia to Zambia, we source ingredients such as tea tree oil, sesame oil, babassu oil, honey, beeswax and cocoa butter from small scale farmers who secure a fair price for their goods, and in many cases a social premium to benefit their whole community. Community Trade has supported the building of wells, schools, community centres and the supply of educational materials across the world. We are deeply proud of the positive impact Community Trade has upon our suppliers.
The Body Shop is also campaigning to Stop Violence in the Home. In 2005 the campaign reached 35 markets across the four The Body Shop Regions. The campaign raises funds and awareness about domestic violence helping to protect the victims of domestic violence. Our approach is positive, empowering and ultimately seeks to change peoples' perceptions of domestic violence all over the world.
From our on-going commitment to end animal testing in the cosmetics industry and the launch of our first Community Trade product to our global campaign to Stop Violence in the Home, running in more than 35 countries across the world, The Body Shop has shown consistently that business has the power to make the right kind of difference to the world. Now we have an amazing opportunity to influence the world’s largest cosmetics company on these issues.
L’Oréal has stated that it has great respect for The Body Shop identity as a successful, global, naturally-oriented company with a distinct heritage based on strong and well defined values. Furthermore, L'Oreal have stated that, should the offer succeed, The Body Shop would retain its existing identity and values and use this transaction as a platform for further expansion of The Body Shop's values with support from L’Oréal. We applaud their intentions and hope that our customers will do the same.
Uk Customer Relations
01903844554
ukcustomer.relations@the-body-shop.com
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From: sisterv [mailto:lishlash@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 17 March 2006 10:34
To: UK Customer Relations
Subject: Website Feedback
How could you sell out to major vivisectors L'Oreal like this?
For years you have thrived on the profits of ethical values and consumer support, and have now thrown this back in the faces of all who have supported you and have betrayed the animals who suffer in their millions for corporate greed.
Despite having been regular buyers of your products we will never be buying from your stores again.
Yours in utter disgust
Mike and Nadine Baldock
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Yes , well, im sure not lining the pockets of L'Oreal through buying products from TBS. Id rather buy any make up product than TBS now, cos I hate L'Oreal. My money is going to Beauty Without Cruelty!!!!!!!!!!
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The Body Shop's 'Ethiscore' calculated by Ethical Consumer will apparently go down from 11/20 (not exactly a high score in itself) to 2.5/20, which is exceedingly low, following the L'Oreal takeover.
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Does anybody know the address of their head office so I can send back my savers card- cut up into two of course , with a letter explaining why I am doing what I am doing and that I shall never shop there again.
Boo hiss to The Body Shop , L'oreal and Nestle
http://www.stopanimalcruelty.co.uk/bodyshop/
http://www.babymilkaction.org/pages/boycott.html#1
I can't walk passed The Body Shop now without having an urge to shout out Trators to them.
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here's their UK head office address:
The Body Shop International PLC
Watersmead
Littlehampton
West Sussex
BN17 6LS
UK
i noticed this on the website as i was looking it up: http://www.thebodyshopinternational....le.jsp?index=1
i'm assuming PETA gave them this award before L'Oreal bought them out?!!! :rolleyes:
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Gorilla
here's their UK head office address:
The Body Shop International PLC
Watersmead
Littlehampton
West Sussex
BN17 6LS
UK
i noticed this on the website as i was looking it up:
http://www.thebodyshopinternational....le.jsp?index=1
i'm assuming PETA gave them this award
before L'Oreal bought them out?!!! :rolleyes:
thanks for that, it willbe sent 1st thing tomorrow morning.
RE PETA and award, I e:mailed PETA about it , this is what I wrote :
I am just curious as to why an award has been given to The Body Shop?
I am aware this award may have been given BEFORE the take over by the animal testing company L'Oreal this month which is also part owned by Neslte- http://www.babymilkaction.org/index.html .
I , as do many of my friends, ask PETA to withdrawl this award that has been given by PETA to The Body Shop, which in itself would send a clear message to L'Oreal that animal testing esp for cosmetics unacceptable.
a few days later I got this response from PETA :
Hi ,
Thanks very much for your thoughts - it's good to hear other
perspectives, and I do understand your concerns. We've designed the
Proggy Awards to highlight companies, individuals, products, books, etc.
that think outside the box and offer new and innovative animal-friendly
products and services, or who advance the animal's message in some
unusual way.
Since The Body Shop place animal rights messages front and centre in
their company ethos and maintain a strong stance against animal testing
we believe they deserved this award. Concerning the L'Oreal takeover -
Every time a massive corporation buys a smaller more compassionate
company, the compassion flows upward, and we assume that would happen in
this instance as well-the big companies learn that consumers care about
things like animal testing and cruelty to farmed animals. So we assume
that a no testing policy, something The Body Shop has been known for
since its inception, and its support of animal- enviro- and native
peoples-friendly projects, will both continue and, we hope, convince
L'Oreal to stop abusing animals in labs once and for all. We see it as
a sign of the times as people demand respect for animals of people to
the idea that animals are not ours to abuse for food.
Some Proggy winners have improvements to make in other areas, but we
want to highlight progress, not just perfection (and who's really
perfect, after all?!). In the past PETA US has awarded Burger King for
offering a veggie burger nationally.
I hope this helps to explain our rationale a bit and I'd be happy to
answer any other questions you have. Thank you again, very much, for
your input.
Kindest regards,
Lauren
PETA Europe Ltd
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Every time a massive corporation buys a smaller more compassionate
company, the compassion flows upward, and we assume that would happen in
this instance as well-the big companies learn that consumers care about
things like animal testing and cruelty to farmed animals.
:confused: :confused: :confused:
which companies are they thinking of? i can't think of a single instance where this has happened - the ethics of the smaller companies always get watered down and lost.
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anybody noticed todays page on peta?
http://www.peta.org.uk/feat/stillcrueltyfree.asp
Two pioneering manufacturers of cruelty-free products, The Body Shop and Tom's of Maine, were recently acquired by large multinational companies - L'Oréal and Colgate, respectively. Caring consumers can send a message to the parent companies that cruelty-free products are good for business by continuing to buy The Body Shop's and Tom's of Maine's products. Both companies have pledged to keep their strong policies against testing on animals.
http://www.peta.org.uk/feat/buttons/100-tomslogo.gifPETA has received written communication from The Body Shop assuring us that the company's no-animal-testing policy will not change and that all its products will remain cruelty-free. In a written statement, Tom's of Maine's founders Tom and Kate Chappell assured customers, “You will continue to be able to rely on our tried and true Natural Care products based on our model of stewardship and sustainability. We will continue to make products without artificial preservatives, sweeteners or dyes and without animal testing or animal ingredients”.
Show Big Business That Buyers Want Compassion Across the Board
Invariably, when massive corporations buy smaller, more compassionate companies, the big companies learn from the smaller companies' success that consumers are concerned about issues like animal testing and cruelty to farmed animals. For example, Linda McCartney's line of foods is produced by Heinz; dairy-products company Fayrefield Foods owns Swedish Glace, the non-dairy frozen dessert which is now sold in all major supermarkets, and candy giant Cadbury owns Green & Black's Organic, which produces vegan chocolates. These conglomerates' purchases of compassionate companies have caused humane products to become more widely promoted and sold than ever before.
Large corporations now recognise the expanding market of compassionate consumers who want cruelty-free food, cosmetics and clothing. We hope these companies' no-testing policies - and The Body Shop's support of projects which are friendly to animals, the environment and native peoples - will persuade L'Oréal and Colgate to abandon animal tests across the board.
What You Can Do
Please ask Colgate and L'Oréal to adopt the same compassionate standards as Tom's of Maine and The Body Shop:
Colgate-Palmolive (UK) Ltd
Consumer Affairs
Guildford Business Park
Middleton Road
Guildford
Surrey GU2 8JZ
00800 321 321 32
Web form
L'Oréal (UK) Ltd
255 Hammersmith Road
London
W6 8AZ
0208 762 4000
0208 762 4001 (fax)
comms@uk.loreal.com
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I have just watched Bremner Bird and Fortune- he was rippin the pi%s out of "her" sellin to L'oreal , he dressed up as her etc and was going on about animal testing and how ethcical they were but that they dont give a damn now etc by seling to a animla testing company etc .
Nice one Bremner :)
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I just saw that, very amusing:D
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Oh dear.
'Body Shop's popularity plunges after L'Oreal sale
By Cahal Milmo
Published: 10 April 2006
The sale of the Body Shop to the French cosmetics giant L'Oréal last month has dented the reputation of the British high street retailer once vaunted as the champion of ethical beauty products. [...]'
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/thi...icle356889.ece
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L'Oreal takes over the Body Shop
Did I hear right? I'm lost for words....:confused:
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sadly you did hear right, the BODY SHOP sold to L'Oreal which is also part owned by Neslte
: http://www.stopanimalcruelty.co.uk/bodyshop/
http://www.babymilkaction.org/pages/boycott.html#1
It has also been announced that a comapny also part ownde by Neslte are to buy the Linda McCartney vegetarian food range. :mad:
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I'm gutted!!! And angry - if I think that my cash is going to line the coffers of a company who tells me "I'm worth it" just because I buy a lipstick (tested on animals), well... I'd rather spend my hard-earned Euros somewhere else.:mad: Do you think it is an attempt to show a "caring", "environmentally-empathetic" side to their customers, or is it just all about profits?
While we're on the topic of greedy cosmetics companies, that ad with Claudia Schiffer where she's making ga-ga faces at the baby then the voice-over says that expressions like that will give you wrinkles???!!!:D That one cracks me up
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What a joke. Sell outs. :(
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OMG , did anybody see the Heaven and Earth show today, I was channel hopping when I saw them saying they were going to be talking to her so I stayed tuned and heard her say this when asked about the negative media she has been recieving about her selling to L'oreal-an animal testing company. Her reply was "you can't always get it right so you just got to say up your bum" !!!!!!!
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When are cosmetic (personal care) companies who profiles themelves as being "natural" stop using harmful chemicals in their products such as methyl paraben and propyl paraben?...."Lush" also uses chemicals, unfortunately. I wouldn't be as upset if they didn't use the "natural' image.:rolleyes: :mad: Hypocrites.
These vegan friendly NATURAL products looks great www.aubrey-organics.com
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OMG - get this!!!
From Anita Roddick's personal blog (beware - the picture may make you nauseous. It did me), posted on April 30, 2003 by Anita herself, and entitled "Dispatch - Because you're not worth it." I realise this is common knowledge to many, but is well worth reading for those, like me, who missed this little "gem" the first time around. *fumes* :mad:
"Does the beauty industry hate women? I've been saying so for years. The fact that L'Oreal is being sued for attempting to fire a saleswoman in California for not being "hot" enough only confirms it for me yet again.
The Age reports:
It was not the kind of order that Elysa Yanowitz, a regional sales manager for a giant cosmetics company, was used to hearing.
After a top executive of her company, L'Oreal, visited the perfume department of a Macys store in San Jose, she said, he ordered her to fire a saleswoman for not being sexy enough.
In court papers, Ms. Yanowitz said his words were: "Get me somebody hot."
A few weeks later when the executive, John Wiswall, General Manager of L'Oreal's designer fragrance division, again visited the store, he discovered that she had not dismissed the saleswoman and, Ms. Yanowitz said, he told her: "Didnt I tell you to get rid of her?"
Later, Ms. Yanowitz said in a sworn statement, as the two passed an attractive blonde woman, Mr. Wiswall said: "Get me one that looks like that."
An industry that thrives on making women feel insecure and inadequate apparently extends its abuse to its own employees. When Yanowitz refused to fire the woman - of Middle-Eastern descent and a top saleswoman for the region - she was systematically made miserable in her job and eventually forced to leave. She is suing for sexual harassment.
This case goes to an important core of the beauty industry: the one that promotes unattainable ideals and sabotages self-esteem. If he thinks like the rest of the beauty industrys male leaders, that L'Oreal executive presumably wanted a "hot" woman behind the counter to make potential customers feel less attractive by comparison and drive more sales. The thinking here - that women can be played off of one another in a pathetic competition of insecurity and consumption - should insult any half-intelligent woman.
More power to Ms. Yanowitz. Even if she doesn't win, she has helped shed another, valuable light on the grotesque inner workings of an industry hell-bent on making women feel inferior."
How can anyone be so two-faced? I am really disappointed. It feels like you can't trust anyone anymore.
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I completely agree Fiamma. I hardly ever used to buy anything at the Bodyshop – but now I won’t buy anything from em after that unprincipled sell-out
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I've sent a reply of disgust. I supported them due to their supportive domestic violence campaign (I'm a domestic vioelnce social worker), but this is just too much! :(
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errrrr- why is there even a thread dedicated to the body shop? there are more important things:)
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I guess because they were regarded as such an ethical company who didn't test on animals, so lots of people supported them because of it. So it's a worry when a company like this gets bought out by a very unethical company and we should let them know it loud and clear otherwise it looks like we condone it.
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Yuck and my mum wants me to shop there!! Don't think so! :rolleyes:
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errrrr- why is there even a thread dedicated to the body shop? there are more important things:)
I don't think you should presume to speak for everyone on the board. Judging by the responses it obviously is of importance to people here.
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kriz
When are cosmetic (personal care) companies who profiles themelves as being "natural" stop using harmful chemicals in their products such as methyl paraben and propyl paraben?...."Lush" also uses chemicals, unfortunately. I wouldn't be as upset if they didn't use the "natural' image.:rolleyes: :mad: Hypocrites.
These vegan friendly NATURAL products looks great
www.aubrey-organics.com
aubrey stuff is lovely. i have the Rosa Mosqueta nourishing shampoo. all the ingredients are natural and it smells lovely. its not that difficult to get vegan shampoo but this is the only one ive ever seen that is completely natural and my hair loves it!
it is a lil bit expensive but it lasts for ages. i tried the hair dye as well and its lovely too. its got 4 herbs in it and thats all, nothink else and after i used it my hair felt and looked thicker and shinier than it has been for ages :)