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These are the ones i have heard
Too old too change
I like the taste
Dont like vegetables
all my friends eat meat
costs too much
i am too lazy
vegans are unhealthy
freedom of choice
humans matter more than animals
have no time to cook
not enough places to eat vegan at
God allows to kill and eat animals
vegans are weird
vegans act superior
its not healthy
if everyone went vegan were would the people in slaughter houses work?
I dont want too!
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Today, I was told that the person could "understand my logic" of following a vegan lifestyle, but they would never be able to do it because:
"I would die. I need to eat, you see. I only eat 2/3 kinds of vegetables, really, so without meat, I would be very, very ill. I could also never live without chocolate. I love chocolate too much to ever give it up."
They also told me they would never be able to watch something like Earthlings, because it's too upsetting for them, even though they are "aware" of what a chicken or a cow is, they would prefer to separate what it is and what sits on their plate... *sigh*
I also heard this one today, too: I wish I could be a vegetarian, but the diet made me extremely sick. I found out I'm anemic and I have to consume a certain amount of seafood each day.
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Funny because vegetarians are less likely to become anaemic than meat eaters.
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I don't know if anyone hard this before but an omnivore told me "I can't go vegan because I don't have the technology for it."
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sigen92
"God created us to eat animals! It's our responsibility to comtrol the animal population so that there won't be too many of them!"
And you do that by factory-farming them?!
I have heard this one countless times from my husbands family, that God commanded man to eat animals. People like to use the permission from God excuse for many things, and like to believe everything put on this planet is simply for our benefit, as if without humans the world would fall apart. I would guess quite the contrary.
Another one is justifying eating eggs because "they would go to waste anyway if not eaten because the hen would still lay them.". Without human intervention hens lay far far less eggs.
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I always find that if you are talking to someone who is religious and they say "God created animals for us to eat" I point out to them Adam and Eve ate a vegan diet it was only after the fall that humans started to eat animals. So Gods ideal was to not eat animals it was only once sin entered the world that people started to kill animals. Of course it's not going to turn anyone Vegan but it has stopped a few arguments.
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Mymblesdaughter
"God created animals for us to eat"
When someone says this to me I respond in one of two ways - either "Humans are animals as well, does that make it OK for us to eat each other?" or "Maybe God did make animals for us to eat, but I'll err on the side of caution and ask him/her when I meet them".
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If you reply "He told me differently" they think you are making fun of them / their religion, are disrespectful, lying, or plain old crazy. So what good is a God if he can't just talk to people. It's not like you're claiming to be his son, or that he said to slaughter your first born or something...
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I always find that if you are talking to someone who is religious and they say "God created animals for us to eat" I point out to them Adam and Eve ate a vegan diet it was only after the fall that humans started to eat animals. So Gods ideal was to not eat animals it was only once sin entered the world that people started to kill animals. Of course it's not going to turn anyone Vegan but it has stopped a few arguments.
Actually, according to the bible, God created animals before he created man. After creating man, He ruled that man was to rule over and subdue the animals and earth but as far as food God gave man every seed bearing plant and every tree that had fruit bearing seed in it for food and He also gave this same food for animals (no mention of man eating the animals until after the flood as you specified). (Genesis 1:24-30). I have also made this point in arguments with literal bible followers but they still contend that God ordered man to eat animals after the flood so it is supposedly what He wants from us. Sighs. I also have a hard time with bible study because much of the writers of the various parts of the bible (God inspired or not) are influenced by the culture of their day. And the various writings in the bible have been translated thousands of times over thousands of years. What we know as the Christian bible today may be nothing like the original writings. But when I try to explain this view I am accused of having no faith. I just can not imagine a God that condones the brutal taking of a life for food we do not need to live and for slavery to make our own lives more pleasurable.
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" I understand your logic behind it, but you have to keep in mind that not all farmers are the same. My family have been growing pigs and caws and we love them and take a good care of them!"... yeah, and then what? Don't you slaughter them and sell their meat? And don't you take "good care" of them so they "taste" better and have a higher selling point, because they have been organically taken good care of?
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I was once told by a rather intelligent person "But cows need to be milked!"
Uhmmmm if we weren't milking them constantly they wouldn't produce it, same as humans.. To be fair when I explained this he realized he was completely wrong!
"I've had but I don't know how to cook." I you can't cook now, what the hell do you eat now?
McDonald's probably haha. They are rather weird things to even use as an excuse, I would be ashamed to say something like that.
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I was once told by a rather intelligent person "But cows need to be milked!"...
So many people think that, it so weird. I talked to a woman that had two kids of her own and she didn't knew that a cow needs to give birth before she lactates. Intelligent species my ass :(
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So many people think that, it so weird. I talked to a woman that had two kids of her own and she didn't knew that a cow needs to give birth before she lactates. Intelligent species my ass :(
I know right!! Some people are just so ignorant.
I've also been told only Blood Type A can be Vegan hahaha.
So stupid!! =[
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So many people think that, it so weird. I talked to a woman that had two kids of her own and she didn't knew that a cow needs to give birth before she lactates. Intelligent species my ass :(
*blushes* That was me until about three weeks ago. It’s so ridiculous now when I look back on it, but I honestly never questioned why a cow lactated, or why a chicken lay eggs…I just figured that it was something that they did naturally, and humans were just being helpful and managing something that served no real purpose to the animal providing it. Stupid, right? Ignorance is bliss I guess.
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Someone told me the other day they can't be vegan cause they love the runny bit in an egg too much!
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^ Oh dear, I feel a bit sick now. :(
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Lamest excuse I ever heard was from my sister. 'Oh I could never be veg*n, I don't like beans' ?!
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Actually, according to the bible, God created animals before he created man. After creating man, He ruled that man was to rule over and subdue the animals and earth but as far as food God gave man every seed bearing plant and every tree that had fruit bearing seed in it for food and He also gave this same food for animals (no mention of man eating the animals until after the flood as you specified). (Genesis 1:24-30). I have also made this point in arguments with literal bible followers but they still contend that God ordered man to eat animals after the flood so it is supposedly what He wants from us. Sighs. I also have a hard time with bible study because much of the writers of the various parts of the bible (God inspired or not) are influenced by the culture of their day. And the various writings in the bible have been translated thousands of times over thousands of years. What we know as the Christian bible today may be nothing like the original writings. But when I try to explain this view I am accused of having no faith. I just can not imagine a God that condones the brutal taking of a life for food we do not need to live and for slavery to make our own lives more pleasurable.
Honestly, who gives a crap what God made animals for? Can't you figure out your own opinions? God also made rabbit-like vibrators - doesn't mean we all have to use them.
Edit: Oops, I don't mean YOU, by the way, Robin. I mean "Can't one figure out one's own opinions?"
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Oh that's ok LouiseAbel I didnt take it as directed toward me at all! I agree with you wholeheartedly. I really struggle with the church since becoming vegan. I really have to separate out my own faith and spirituality from the teachings of the "church". I also find the attitudes of a lot of the Christians where I live to be quite flippant towards non human life. I have had horrible reactions from church members I have told about my veganism. People at work are supportive and interested and even at my doctors office they at least show a little interest but my "friends" from church have not been so nice about it. One said she thought I was wasting my time worrying about animals that were meant to be eaten anyway and that there were human causes that were more worth the time. Never mind the effect that mass killing and consumption of animals is having on us as a human species lot alone the horrific way animals, creatures created by God, are treated and the violence and damage we are causing the earth. There is an attitude among a lot of Christians that humans are the center of the universe.
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I have heard two similar arguments lately:
"I don't want to be 'that person,' but if baby cows drink milk, then how can it be bad for us?" *facepalm*
"I don't want to watch that Earthlings movie or talk about factory farms because then I won't be able to eat what I want." The person didn't say this exactly, but after a conversation, that was pretty much how it ended up.
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Tied between,
"I would be vegan, but my doctor won't let me."
and
"I don't eat the cute animals. But chickens are horrible! They deserve it."
The second one scares me a but more though; apparently she has evaluated the attractiveness of each being and has decided the ugly ones should die more?:undecided:
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My doctors have never questioned my Veganism, that is a lame excuse.
But the other one is just an evil excuse.
My mum said because she can't eat a lot of food that it would be impossible to get all the nutrients as a Vegan.
Considering she lives off of vitamins anyway I'm sure it wouldn't make a difference. (She fills up on too much bread!)
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I think the most ridiculous excuse (and common) is 'I like the taste I couldn't give it up'
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Bjorn
I think the most ridiculous excuse (and common) is 'I like the taste I couldn't give it up'
Really? That's the only excuse I don't think is ridiculous. I think it's selfish and quite appalling, but it's a fair excuse. "I like the taste more than I care about the welfare of animals". They just don't care enough. It's a subjective thing, so we can't really argue against it.
I think my brother is a prime example here. He knows the facts and could watch a cow being slaughtered and then eat it two hours later. He just has completely different instincts from me. Doesn't mean that we don't discuss the environmental reasons to go vegan and that I'm going to stop trying to influence him that way... Haha.
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What bothers me with this answer is that they close the door straight away. they don't even want to consider the possibility.
And it annoys me. Probably because I also keep a curious mind towards almost anything before deciding.
I love the taste too, but between -loving the taste and causing suffering- and -discovering new favorite tastes or even same taste and cruelty free alternatives and not causing suffering-, my choice is easily made.
I've stopped trying to convince/influence people around me, I just let them know how/why I do it, if they ask more info they'll get it...
When you get this kind of answer, as you said, there is no door open for discussion, I prefer not to waste my time then.
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"I only eat real food"
I have been seeing this comment a lot lately in forums, magazines etc but I have had to deal with it in person too. Meat and dairy are refered to as "real food" while things like plant milks, soy yogurts, tofu, agave, etc are supposed to be highly processed concoctions of chemicals. Have these people ever really researched how meat and dairy are processed? I looked up how cheese is made and how bacon is made (one site advocates that bacon is good for you and fruit is terrible) and there is nothing natural about it at all. It takes as many steps to process meat and dairy to an edible form as it does tofu, if not more because of the danger of food poisoning if meat and dairy are under processed. Ugh!
It also shows cultural racism towards other cultures that are predominantly plant based and that have eaten the types of foods they claim arent real for thousands of years.
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Robinwomb
"I only eat real food".. natural...
That always makes me proper angry because 'real' and 'natural' are words that are bandied around so much by advertisers, who love them because they're not regulated so you can call whatever you want 'natural' and people will automatically think of it positively. There's an ad campaign on Irish tv at the moment for a company which makes processed meat products ie sausages, meat slices, which has children in a classroom being asked by their teacher to bring something 'natural' into class. Most of the kids bring in leaves and pinecones while one brings in a packet of processed dead pig, sorry I mean ham, slices and is praised by the teacher. Every animal product advertised, from cow's milk to processed dead animals is advertised as being 'natural' and 'full of goodness'. Strange that they'll tell kids that eating dead animals is 'natural' and yet won't tell them where the pink slice in their sandwich comes from :/
Sorry, rant over!
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My sentiments exactly Blueberries! Every time I see a billboard or advertisement showing a perfect looking cow or chicken in a pastoral setting with the words Natural or organic or real floating around I just want to scream.
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I got told "I'm here for a fun, not a long time"??? Now that's messed up
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"Life is too short to be vegan"
All these excuses just reveal their selfishness and actually make them look stupid,not us:-)
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I got told "I'm here for a fun, not a long time"??? Now that's messed up
Yeah, people seem to think that if you don't take care of your health you'll have a great time in life and just pass away quickly, rather than actually have to deal with the illnesses that result from bad lifestyle choices.
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"You're black therefore you can't be vegan"
"We need to regulate animals on earth by hunting and eating them"
"You're part of a weird cult"
"Meat is too good and life is too short"
"I could only be a vegan if my health was at risk eating meat"
I know there are many more but those are the only one I can think about right now.
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Elielisa
"You're black therefore you can't be vegan"
"We need to regulate animals on earth by hunting and eating them"
"You're pa
Wow! Racist much to whoever said that? Lol!
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As weird as it is I get it from black people as much as any other race ... ignorance is NOT racist ^^
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Elielisa
"You're black therefore you can't be vegan"
Wow, that's proper ignorance! That's something that you'd really have to ask the person who said it 'are you serious?' and if they are being serious ask them why they think that, simply because it can't possibly be based on any kind of logic or reasoning!
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Elielisa, sorry you had to deal with such a racist comment.
I've heard the cult thing once, and let me tell you it boils my blood. I was born and raised in a cult, so hearing that makes me feel like an ignorant fool because I've spent so much time studying cult mind control and undoing the brain washing/mind control/fear indoctrination.
The lamest comment I've heard came from my friend. He helped his sister do a research paper on environmentalism and he ended up finding out all this info that I had told him or knew already, about how horrible animal farming is for the animals and the environment. That he understood why people went vegan and wanted to do it himself. He sounded so excited.
A while pass after I told him a few vegan meals he could prep easily to get him started. He says he hasn't done anything vegan because he's just been eating whatever his mom cooks. I wanted to smack him upside the head.
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People are just serious and that's the worse. My ex even told me : "Why don't you like chicken? Cause where I'm from ( South Carolina ) all black people I know love chicken" He used to piss me off too when saying " You're a vegetarian! I keep on forgetting! " I broke up with not long after!
Ignorance used to drive me crazy but I just ignore people now and don't have much friends now cause they're were just being disrespectfull. I'm just sick and tired of people full of themselves so whenever people start saying nonsense things about veganism etc... I just quit and don't even try to convince them anymore as it usually turns into an argument. ^^
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A while pass after I told him a few vegan meals he could prep easily to get him started. He says he hasn't done anything vegan because he's just been eating whatever his mom cooks. I wanted to smack him upside the head.[/QUOTE]
WTF??? What kind of bull.... is that?? I'm not even sure if this is laziness, ignorance, or just him being two faced!
See thats why I don't even try anymore cause I'll end up smashing people in their face :)