That's a great quote! Do you remember what catalog it was in?
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recently i saw a very big bloke, he was very tall, over 6 foot and erm wasnt fat but not skinny lol very muscley, he had a tshirt on saying 'skinny pale vegan' :D
wouldnt work for me as i am skinny and pale but thats just my natural form
I love stuff like that! Hehe! :D
I got into a discussion about milk and calcium the other day... Said something like : yeah it's healthy and comes from an animal huh?! So if dog chit was really nutritious would you harvest it every time your dog popped a squat on the sidewalk and dip it in your coffee?!
What do you eat?
Everything you do minus the bits of animals.
Not witty, just to the point.
"...I say a prayer of thanks for the animal/meat"
And if a heroin addict robbed me but said a prayer of thanks for his hit, that would be okay then? Is it a gift from God if it's not freely given?
"That's how they make their living" (ie animal raising)
My grandfather was a fuller-Brush man. He evolved. (Or less charitably: they should have stayed in school and learned to read)
"...but I love animals" (from a meat eater)
To which I replied: "Yeah, peodophiles say that about children".
It may be considered irational, I was pleased with it as comebacks go! :D
I first want to improve my running abilities before I come out with that comeback, Bunny!:D
lv
haha... i usually just say they don't have a nervous system... but that's better.
plants do, in a different way than human or animals though. supposely they have chemical reations changing drastically with a cut...but honestly, what's the point talking about plants when we can save animals? So if plants really feel pain, then the meat eaters would have a point of eating meat? Honestly I see no logic in this. I think being a vegan is the best a person can do, so why not try instead of not trying...
If plants could feel pain (which they can't by definition) being a fruitarian would be even better.
Meat eater:"What do you eat?"
Vegan:
~Things that don't scream as they slowly bleed to death on the slaughterhouse floor.
~Things that don't mourn the loss of their children when they're taken away right after being born.
~Things that don't come out of the nipple of another species.
~Things that don't come from anyone's nipple, now that I'm not a baby anymore.
~Things that weren't treated in a way that would merit a life sentence if done to a human.
~Things that don't give me heart attacks and cancer.
~Things I could catch and prepare with my own hands (and wouldn't mind doing so in the presence of children).
~Things I wouldn't mind mind being harvested in/near my backyard.
~Things I wouldn't mind taking kids on a field trip to see "where our food comes from."
~Things that weren't grown in such a way as to promote world hunger, deforestation, and pollution.
~Protein.
~Calcium.
~Fiber.
~FOOD.
(Possibly my favorite)
~ANYTHING I WANT.
I just wrote down things as I thought of them, so they're not exactly perfect and they're often generalizations. But you can edit them to suit your needs.
I know this thread is about witty comebacks. I already posted my favorites.
baby_vicuņa - About chickens and their eggs. I have some rescued chickens, and they don't eat their eggs unless the egg has fallen and breaks open. Chickens have a need for calcium too, so they get it from the shells. I have 3 chickens that are determined to be mommies and I do not want to reproduce more chickens, I rather adopt or rescue. So I have to steal the eggs from under them, and they cry when I do it, and I cry inside because I am doing it, but it is for the best. The winter is coming soon and they don't need a baby to keep warm, as well as themselves.
About eggs being fertilized. Don't be grossed out, but some eggs are already fertilized before they end up on someone's plate. I have 4 roosters that are having a ball with my hens, so believe me, lots of eggs that I steel from the wanna be mothers, and the eggs I don't have to steal but just take away, most likely are fertilized. Some chickens are sitters, and some are not. As of today, I am getting almost a carton of eggs every 2 days (15 hens). Every year the same 4 hens try to become mommies. We give our eggs away to friends and neighbors and they all say that the eggs are so much more delicious than the ones they get from the supermarket, free range or factory farmed. Duh! My eggs come from happy chickens plus their eggs taste good because they are being eaten much earlier than the eggs in the supermarket.
Farm sanctuaries actually boil the eggs and give them back to the chickens to eat. Chickens will eat almost any kind of food. They are not vegans, like cows and goats are. I don't know about horses, but I would guess that they are vegan too. I read the pigs are not vegetarians either.
I heard that when you feed them back the shells you have to mash them up so they don't look like their eggs. Otherwise they can and do start pecking at each others eggs?
Hi xpecting:
I never heard of breaking up the shells, however, it makes sense. My chickens very rarely eat the eggs, but then I collect them everyday. When is your baby due?
By the way baby_vicuņa, I wrote something in my last posting that I think was incorrect. About a chicken's egg being fertilized and eventually ending up on someone's plate - because a hen does not need a rooster to lay an egg, I would imagine most eggs would not be fertilized if they come from factory farms, but free-ranged hens could very well lay fertilzed eggs. I also read that in an egg factory farm, they do have other hens in a different area where they are used for reproducing more hens. I believe most of them are artificially inseminated, and some lucky hens do have sex with a rooster as well. If they have a baby rooster, we all know what happens to them. It is so horrible to think about. I have a pain in my chest (happens when I get sad) just typing this.
I'm not trying to start anything, VeganLu, but why are you encouraging the eating of eggs to other people?
WHAT tigerlilly? I do not encourage the eating of eggs to no one. I was just clarifying to baby_vicuņa that some eggs are fertilized when purchased. I might have spoken too much about my happy chickens, but in no way am I for people eating eggs. I am vegan. Sorry you misunderstood my postings. Yes, I do give my eggs away to friends and neighbors. It is better than just throwing them out. They are going to eat eggs whether I give them free ones or they purchase them in grocery stores. They all know that I am vegan and I wish that they would follow in my foot steps, but they never will.
I might have posted this one-liner somewhere on this thread - "Human animals are the only animals that drink milk their entire life, and that milk is from another species." I don't tell them (don't want to start a war) that if human animals want to drink milk, they should have human factory farms consisting of thousands and thousands of human females who are made pregnant by artificial insemination, get pregnant again, and after they give birth to THEIR baby, the baby is taken away from them, and they are made to get pregnant again. I actually believe in everything that I wrote in this post. You might called me crazy or weird, but I really mean it about have human animal dairy farms. I also mean the same for the pregnant female horses who are used to have their urine collected for human animals' use. How about using female human animals?
I too thought you were "xpecting" a baby. :surprised_ani:
Do your neighbors and friends know your ethical stance regarding the eggs you're giving them? That's the only thing I'm worried about: if they don't know, they could conceivably be thinking that what the world needs is more free-range, hands-on kinds of animal exploitation, rather than supermarket stuff. In that way you could be helping to prevent them from making a switch to veganism.
However, you say they are unlikely to make that switch anytime soon anyway - that describes most people I know as well. If they do know your ethical position, and are refusing to make such a switch, then I would say that you're conceivably doing a lot of good: every time they gets eggs from you, they don't buy factory farm eggs, etc. You're taking support away from the egg industry.
I would find it incredibly difficult to knowingly harm the hens by taking their eggs away. However, I'm not sure there's any viable alternative, as you say. The last thing you need is more chickens to look after, and I don't suppose there's any good way to "fix" them, is there? I don't know... :confused: I know that poses an ethical dilemma as well, but I don't regret having fixed my house bunnies years ago (before I even thought of it as an ethical problem): they're much happier now, or so it seems to me anyway. Perhaps they would be happier, unfixed, in a more natural (but protected - they are domestic) setting with regular access to rabbit loving. What they have, though, is access to three rooms in a house, with only us and each other - they're both males - for company. Not being obsessed with territory marking, sex, etc. has worked to their - and our - benefit.
Anyway, I guess those are the main points I would make to you: if your friends, etc. know where you stand, you're doing good by keeping them from supporting animal exploitation to the extent they otherwise would, and if fixing your hens is not possible (too expensive, too dangerous a procedure for hens, etc.) then you're probably doing the best thing, even though it does clearly harm them. :( Life is like that, we try to do the least harm we can, help out the most we can, but that doesn't always mean we can eliminate all harms, etc.
Oh yes, Kimberly. All of the people we give our eggs to know that I am vegan. And yes, it is too bad that none of these people are willing to give up eating meat and dairy. In fact, one of my neighbors said to me not to believe everything I read. I wanted to jump her, but I told her that I not only read about such horror in the meat and dairy industry, I also told her that I have seen live footage. In fact, I invited her to come to my house so she could watch some of my videos, but she said she does not want to know. I give her eggs after I give everybody else theirs. :lol: And the reason I give her eggs in the first place is because she has hardly any money.
About my chickens and me not wanting them to reproduce, the rooster would be the one to get "fixed", but a rooster is such a great bird. They make a flock of hens complete. Plus their crowing all day gives me such happiness and peace of mind. I am waiting to hear from Farm Sanctuary because I have enough room in the chicken coop to adopt at least 10 more hens.
Oooh, that one makes my blood boil. If you can't bear to see it, hear it, etc. you have no business contributing to it. I can understand when people don't know there's any problem (like children, for instance), but when you're being told by others (vegans) that it's not right, to then say, "Oh, I don't want to see that."? That makes you culpable in my book. You're culpable if you know and you contribute to it, certainly, but you're also culpable if you've reason to suspect something is amiss (like other people telling you there is) and you contribute to the problem while refusing to consider the evidence.
I'm sure you all agree, that's just my little rant for the day...
To Kimberlily1983:
I agree with you 100%. In fact, my feelings toward her went down the drain after she said "I don't want to know", even after I told her what goes on in the meat and dairy industry. And, what made me really not like her is when she said "Don't believe what you read from the animal rights organization". I came back at her, holding myself back from killing her, and told her how the chickens that give us eggs from factory farms suffer so much. I don't see this person very often, and I have decided I will not give her free eggs anymore, even though I know she is in financial difficulty, which was the only reason I did give her eggs.
People who say such things about not wanting to know or that factory farms are not bad is because they want to continue eating animals. Most people suck when it comes to animal rights. Sometimes I wish the planet would blow up and then we won't be so unhappy about what people do to animals.
Yeah...I've gotten that alot, actually. The whole, "Eh...I don't want to know."
It's like, what do you say to that, exactly?
Sorry if this is a repeat but in response to the "stuck on an island thing" i once read
omni: So what if you were stuck on an island, starving, with nothing but a rabbit
veg: I'd find out what the rabbit was eating, and join it
HI guy and gals, new to forum so all this stuff is brill!! Sat here giggling at your posts, bloody brilliant and have written a few down so i dont forget them. Its great o know there are awsome people out there like you lovely lot. Cheers m'dears :-))
Something that really annoys meat-eaters who are trying to prove vegetarianism/veganism wrong :D:
meat eater: but eating meat is right because men are made to eat other animals and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.......[insert a load of bullsh*t]
V: If you care so much about whether or not I eat meat it must be because deep down you KNOW that eating meat is wrong and you're just trying to justify it to yourself! Wow, that is lame. [insert giggles]