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  1. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    "Q: WHAT CAUSES BLOOD SPOTS?
    A: Small spots of blood (sometimes called "meat" spots) are occasionally found in an egg yolk. These do not indicate a fertile egg; they are caused by the rupture of a...
  2. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: Re: Vegan view on eggs

    That little spot of blood isn't an embryo. If a chicken get stressed out while the egg is forming, blood vessels rupture and sometimes remain in the egg...which makes me wonder just how stressed the...
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    Re: The definition of the word 'vegan'

    :D No you're safe! It's my little brother Jake. He just lookds like a girl cause we dressed him up in jewelery. ;) Sťamus is such a cool name...
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    Re: The definition of the word 'vegan'

    I am certainly not living a vegan lifestyle for anyone else. I spent my first four months as a vegan withouy even talking to another vegan. I was under the impression however, that coming to a...
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    Re: The definition of the word 'vegan'

    Who knows? :rolleyes: She's two years younger, so I try not to pay attention to her much. She struggling with becoming a vegan herself (at least she says she is...once again she's still a teenager,...
  6. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: Well if the chicken likes eating their eggs,...

    Well if the chicken likes eating their eggs, that's good enough for me. Seems it's just as natural for them as it is for us, and it is theirs in the first place. :)

    Hey on a different note, how...
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    Sticky: My sister and I had two rabbits when we were much...

    My sister and I had two rabbits when we were much younger. The pet shop guy told us two females. Yeah not so much. :D After we caught one humping the other, we seperated them, but it was too late. ...
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    Sticky: I hear ya on the beef country. My dad lives in...

    I hear ya on the beef country. My dad lives in Houston too. Good luck on your hubby. I think that was my biggest problem too: learning how to explain veganism. I always just ended pissing people...
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    Sticky: Yeah, I don't quite get how it happened either. ...

    Yeah, I don't quite get how it happened either. He was a very easy sell. I have a hunch he might have been considering it before I brought it up. My mom (hehe, I wish I was from London...mum is so...
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    Sticky: [QUOTE=Astrocat]Noooo problem Well,...

    Well, yes, technically people are food. Sharks like us just fine



    Blech. Not me. I hate all kinds of brussel sprouts. And poo is also a way to get rid of a lot of excess toxins...doesn't...
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    Sticky: Yay, you're back Shisha! I was feeling very...

    Yay, you're back Shisha! I was feeling very alone...


    But you seem to say it so much better...
  12. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: Sorry :D I didn't mean to make my definition of...

    Sorry :D I didn't mean to make my definition of food so narrow. Food, by definition, also has to have some sort of nutritional value. Eggs do. Of course, it also has some negative effects on the...
  13. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: Well if somebody wanted to eat chicken poo, I...

    Well if somebody wanted to eat chicken poo, I certainly could care less. I, actually haven't experienced anyone justifying eating animals/body fluid by saying "it's food" (guess I'm just lucky...
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    Sticky: If by evidence you are referring to simple...

    If by evidence you are referring to simple statements that eating eggs is exploiting them, then you are right. There has been a lot of that. However, a statement is not evidence until it is backed...
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    Sticky: Wow PeasnHominy, that's a very unique view point...

    Wow PeasnHominy, that's a very unique view point that you have. Do you follow a specific religion, or is it more of a personal belief? Must be hard for you either way...I admire you for it. :)
    ...
  16. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: But then there's the question of if it's ethical...

    But then there's the question of if it's ethical to feed something to an animal that's not natural for it.
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    Sticky: :p I agree that a car is unethical in the sense...

    :p I agree that a car is unethical in the sense of harm to the environment. I was just using it as an example of something dangerous or harmful to humans, that might not be considered unethical. ...
  18. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: So what about people using manure instead of...

    So what about people using manure instead of fertilizers in their garden? Surely that is using an animal for your own ends as much as taking an egg. But the animal has as much use for its manure as...
  19. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: No...no good info. My stealth operation wasn't a...

    No...no good info. My stealth operation wasn't a huge success ;) The Crazies were more interested in what to do with a hen once it started eating eggs (about half believed the only solution was...
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    Sticky: I'm looking on some chicken breeder/egg layer...

    I'm looking on some chicken breeder/egg layer forum right now for info. I feel like I'm going undercover or something. :D *cues in the james bond music*
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    Sticky: I'm a little sceptical about it being natural. ...

    I'm a little sceptical about it being natural. First of all, as previously posted, chickens usually only eat eggs if they have a nutrition problem. If it were natural, they would eat them all the...
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    Sticky: I'm not sure if this answers you question about...

    I'm not sure if this answers you question about brooding or not: "If the eggs are not fertilised, the hen will eventually grow tired of being broody and leave the nest. Modern egg-laying breeds...
  23. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: Just because the situation is not common does not...

    Just because the situation is not common does not mean there is something ethically wrong with it.




    I love me some vegan cookies :D Not much fiber in em...kind of a lot of sugar. Nobody's...
  24. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: There are hens that aren't broody, "Modern...

    There are hens that aren't broody, "Modern egg-laying breeds rarely go broody, and those that do will often stop part-way through the incubation cycle. Some breeds, such as the Cochin regularly go...
  25. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: *sigh*It's true...although I am learning some...

    *sigh*It's true...although I am learning some interesting stuff. Did you know that hens actually store sperm to fertilize eggs? And that until the 4th day (their incubation is only 21 days) chick...
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    Sticky: :mad: "Egg eating occurs primarily in flocks that...

    :mad: "Egg eating occurs primarily in flocks that are kept on the floor (i.e., not in cages)". Ah sure, that's the solution, stick em in cages.
  27. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: It seems that it's not natural for a chicken to...

    It seems that it's not natural for a chicken to eat its own egg from this:

    "Anyone who has raised chickens for several decades will notice that some hens tend to eat their own eggs. Usually...
  28. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: Just as long as she doesn't turn into a T-Rex...;)

    Just as long as she doesn't turn into a T-Rex...;)
  29. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: Here's somethig else for your dream veganblue :):...

    Here's somethig else for your dream veganblue :):

    "Fact - If a rooster is not present in a flock of hens, a hen will often take the role, stop laying, and begin to crow."
  30. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: :D Saw this...I know it has no bearing on the...

    :D Saw this...I know it has no bearing on the subject, but:

    "Fact - The closest living relative of the t-rex is the chicken."

    :D :D
  31. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: So I found this: "Q. "What does "broody" mean?"...

    So I found this:
    "Q. "What does "broody" mean?"
    A. Going "broody" just refers to the instinct a hen has to stop laying eggs every day and to start sitting on the ones she's already laid, so...
  32. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: I agree that the desirable outcome of the chicken...

    I agree that the desirable outcome of the chicken breed that we have created would be to let them die off naturally. However, turning rescue hens out into the wild is a death sentence. They can't...
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    Sticky: This is what I was talking about. Do you know...

    This is what I was talking about. Do you know where it's from?
  34. Thread: Vegans and eggs

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    Sticky: I don't believe that ethical eggs leads down a...

    I don't believe that ethical eggs leads down a slippery slope. Free range milk doesn't apply, the process by which a cow is made to produce milk is a huge burden on the cow, so it wouldn't matter if...
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    Sticky: I don't think I or Sisha is debating that the...

    I don't think I or Sisha is debating that the definition of veganism doesn't include eating eggs. We were just wondering if there was an ethical reason that eggs shouldn't be eaten if they are...
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    Sticky: Are you suggesting that most of the world and the...

    Are you suggesting that most of the world and the entire population of the industrialized countries needs pyschological help? Cause I agree, though maybe it's not because they eat eggs ;). And...
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    Sticky: Some animals eat their feces. Not sure if cows...

    Some animals eat their feces. Not sure if cows do though...
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    Sticky: My mom uses manure in her garden....for all we...

    My mom uses manure in her garden....for all we know, the cow may have wanted it to stay where it was dropped :D
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    Sticky: I...umm...well, you see...damn I don't know. I...

    I...umm...well, you see...damn I don't know. I knew I should have taken debate class...;) I guess the only thing I got is that the whole process of eating eggs, and raising chickens for eggs is...
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    Sticky: Ummm...yeah I got nothin. As for "you feel you...

    Ummm...yeah I got nothin. As for "you feel you were pressurised or emotionally blackmailed to change your eating habits, how worthwhile is the change, really?" It wasn't the pressure or emotional...
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