Beer

[TonyF]

A'dam is a fine city imho; and caters well for vegans.

In UK you can buy vegan beer no problem, other drinks from some wholefood shop.

[RedWellies]

Anyone have any info on draught Strongbow, please?

Yes, sorry, meant to post earlier about this then I forgot!
It's OK, you can drink it!! Check out Isitvegan.info

That site is compiled from first hand info so it can be trusted. And you can send them info on any products if you know them to be vegan.

[snaffler]

I emailed the TLVB and here is what they say

They Said:------------

----- Original Message -----
From: Wim van der Spek
To: Jayson Rowe
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Dietary Question


Dear Jayson

Little Valley Brewery does 6 bottle conditioned beers which are all vegan. (Withens IPA 3.9 %, Cragg Vale Bitter 4.2 %, Hebdens Wheat 4.5 %, Stoodley Stout 4.8 %, Tod's Blonde 5.0 % and Moor Ale 5.5 %)
From draft only the Wheat beer is vegan, however in the future we will consider to do all draft beers vegan too.
My beers are available in some shops in Yorkshire and Lancashire. At the end of this year I will start selling beer via the internet (mailorder) to mainland UK. However starting next month Suma will start selling 4 of Little Valley beers under their own label, and those beers are vegan too.
If you have more questions please mail.

Wim van der Spek
Little Valley Brewery
----- Original Message -----
From: Jayson Rowe
To: sales@littlevalleybrewery.co.uk
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:41 PM
Subject: Dietary Question


I asked:------------

Dear Little Valley,


I have just read about you in the latest Vegan Society Magazine so I am guessing some of your range is suitable for vegan diets.

In the chance that I spot on of your beers whilst out and about could you tell me which ones are suitable for vegan diets and of course if it bottled or cask regarding suitability as I know Isinglass is often used in Cask Beers.

Many thanks for your time and help.

Best wishes

Jayson Rowe

[Wildflower]

Has anyone posted this for the US?

I found it today and it looked promising...

http://www.veganproducts.org/drinks.html

[Juice]

I'll never look at Corona the same. Lime. y.

[snaffler]

Email below

Ref: 26-7/03476

11th July 2006

Dear Mr Rowe,

Thank you for your e-mail and enquiry regarding Blackthorn Cider.

We have passed your query to our Quality Assurance Department and they have given us the following information:

Blackthorn like all our other ciders/perries has finings added to it to assist in the clarification. This is an inherent part of the brewing process and there are two types of finings in use, one is derived from clay, the other from fish and/or shellfish. Our products are then filtered which will remove the finings but there may be slight traces left. Therefore Blackthorn Cider is unsuitable for vegans and strict vegetarians.

Thank you for taking the time to contact us, we hope this information is of use to you.

Kind regards,

Kirsty Haynes
Customer Care Administrator
01275 890 294
kirsty.haynes@cbrands.eu.com

[Russ]

Blackthorn gives me a massive headache anyway.

[Limey]

I'll never look at Corona the same. Lime. y.

I planned it all along.

[snaffler]

In true bumpkin style I have sourced more vegan cider.

Copy of Email to Burrow Hill Cider, those of you who go to Glastonbury will be familiar with the Big Cider bus left of Pyramid Stage.

http://www.ciderbrandy.co.uk/

Copy of email sent and reply at the top:

Dear Jayson,

I am pleased to be able to say that we use none of those
products and our ciders are fit for vegans,

yours Julian Temperley

----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (removed to prevent spam)
To: <contact@ciderbrandy.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: Contact Form


> Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
> Jayson Rowe xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (removed to prevent spam) on Monday, July 17, 2006 at 14:10:31
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------C> Comments:: Dear Burrow Hill Cider,
>
> I am seeking some dietary information on your product for personal
> reasons, I have tried your cider many years ago at Glastonbury,I follow a
> strict vegan diet and it may affect me being able to drink it.
>
> This is question that may be best passed to customer care or someone in
> the lab/technical area of the company.
>
> I am trying to ascertain if your products are suitable for strict
> vegetarian and vegan diets. By this I mean that no part of production of
> or final fining processes use any animal ingredients or animal by products
> to achieve the finished product.
>
> This also includes such things as isinglass and gelatine that may have
> been used during production but is removed at the end of the production
> process, this would still deem to be unsuitable for these diets.
>
> I know many cider companies rarely use these products now and it seems to
> be more common in traditional ales rather than ciders.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you and hope you can give me and answer as
> soon as possible for you.
>
> Best wishes & Many thanks
>
> Jayson Rowe

[VeganJohn]

Can you not get vegan suitable cider from the Co-op?

I don't drink it myself though.

[greenfield]

i ignored a lot about how alcoholic drinks are made. i drink too-im a social drinker.i always thought of alcohol as being something very much veg, i mean i had no idea that it could contain animal fats or anything from animals.

[smithfield]

Isinglas is the dried swim bladder of the sturgeoen. It is acceptable in kosher wine as a Rabbi decided that it was all removed at the end of the process. If you would like any more info on what wines are vegan please let me know,
Cheers,
George

[Ms Macaque]

I heard that some wines contain bovine blood! I think the vegan wine would not contain anything like that of course. I have no idea about the other forms of alcohol. I know the local vegan c0-operative sells vegan beers, ales and wine so they should not contain any animal ingredients.
I don't drink any alcohol, of course, so it is the best way to avoid any problems not to mention all the other chemicals and ingredients that may go in....some of my friends are vegetarians and also from a Christian religion that would not permit the consumption of any blood-containing products so that will include wine...I hope they know about this bovine blood business in the wines though.........!

[Pagan Vegan]

I have contacted Westons cider and they have confirmed in writing that there entire range, bottled, draught and keg is all vegan. IMHO it's the tastiest too!

[snaffler]

I have contacted Westons cider and they have confirmed in writing that there entire range, bottled, draught and keg is all vegan. IMHO it's the tastiest too!

I will second that it is the best cider ever and that is from the a true bumpkin cider slurper....check out the westons web site http://www.westons-cider.co.uk/ you can buy online all labeled as vegan here as well.

[Mr Flibble]

I usually have bottles of westons knocking around

They sell 3 litre kegs in sainsburys for a few quid - all labelled vegan of course.

[snaffler]

Mr Fibble next time you are down sainsbury pick up a bottle or two of Westons Old Rosie they do sell it, one of the best in the range, also try Westons Stowford Press.

[Mr Flibble]

I've not seen that one in the midlands, i usually drink their organic stuff (it's the same price as their non organic!). I'll keep my eyes peeled thou, I'm always up for trying new vegan products, especially those that are alcoholic

[Russ]

Westons would be my cider of choice, but it's not available in most pubs. However there is one up near Ealing Broadway that has it However the stupid pub has a 21 and over policy, meaning even if I show ID to prove I am 20 years old, I can't order drinks. DUMB.

[Chocs4me]

What do you drink when out?

I've just discovered irn bru isnt vegan (how gutted am I? i love the stuff!) and i usually either drink WKD or white wine so now i go the pub and cant have the wine cos its probably not vegan and cant have my precious WKD Whats a girl to drink without harming anyone but herself!! (Although, now ive entered motherhood, i dont drink very much any more but it is nice to have a few now and then!) Oh and dont tell me any beer, lager or cider suggestions as i dont like all that - thanks!!

[RedWellies]

Some wines are OK. Fetzer white wines are vegan (they sell those in some pubs, like Wetherspoons). If you have a local pub, see what wines they sell and then you can find out if they're vegan.

Captain Morgan's rums are vegan if you like rum? I'm not sure about the "alcopops", you'd have to ask the manufacturers. I think Smirnoff Ice is OK.

[Mr Flibble]

I've not seen that one in the midlands

wow, I really do talk bollocks sometimes don't i?

It practically lept out at me in morrisons about 15 minutes after that post. Thus tonight I'm going to be taste testing the difference between it and the organic. For purely scientific purposes you understand

[Cherry]

regarding irn bru. Are you sure? Have you been told that by the manufacturer?

Also we are advising vegans to avoid any fizzy drinks with Beta Carotene in them, as the manufacturers claim not to be under a legal obligation to tell us whether they use gelatine as a carrier for the product. The only exception to this rule is Irn Bru. They emailed us and told us that they do not use animal derived ingredients at any point in the manufacture of the product and that Irn Bru is therefore suitable for vegans.

from the realfood website

[Chocs4me]

Oooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! you just made me so happy! I had checked the isitvegan site & it said irn bru wasnt vegan plus i couldnt find it in the animal free shopper - but i guess a statement direct from the company would be reliable enough! phew!!

[Cherry]

Hmm. I think if the isitvegan website says it isn't, and the realfood one says it is, then maybe we need to check with the manufacturer ourselves. There shouldn't really be conflicting reports. I hope isitvegan were just making assumptions. Fingers crossed

[Mr Flibble]

I'm kinda skeptical of any list of vegan products compiled by a distributor/reseller for the purpose of flogging more stuff.

As an update, Old Rosie is indeed very pleasent

[Tigerlily]

Is there a Canadian list? How do you keep track of what's vegan and what's not? Do you print the list out and take it to the liquor store? I know NOTHING of different brands so when I go the liquor store, I don't know what I'm buying at all.

[RedWellies]

How do you keep track of what's vegan and what's not?

You need a good memory!! I can remember a lot of stuff sometimes but I keep a list of vegan things in the car, then I can take whichever list I need into the appropriate shop. You could also store info on your mobile.

I don't know about a Canadian list...maybe you could start a thread about it?

[Tigerlily]

I don't have a mobile phone and I have a bad memory, so taking a list like a loser it is!

[gibby]

westons bottled ciders are vegan
and budweiser is vegan but they sponsor bull fights I have been told.
also bud has alot of crap in it - its great for setting off alergy attacks for all sorts of things.

I cant uderstand why the big breweries discrimate against us so


G

[Mr Flibble]

Before this turns into another duplicate thread I thought I'd point out that there's an existing thread specifically concerning spirits, liquours and other ingredients regularly found in cocktails here. Both westons and bud have been discussed previously in them.

[RedWellies]

This thread is under food!

[snaffler]

This thread is under food!

CIDER is food just in liqued form, they say 5 a day, so if the orchard is closed on the way home and I can't be arsed to scrump 5 apples I drink 5 ciders

Back to the original question:-

Most White Rum is vegan all the well known brands.
Bedweiser is vegan and is pretty pure no chemicals but the parent company of Bud own sea world in florida, they do not promote bull fighting or own bull rings.

Becks is a great option.
Holstein Pils is also another.

[gibby]

bud has sulphites as a preserative - as does most "dead" beers
it can be quite nasty although its not labeled on the bottle - but its definately there.

Im not sure about becks - as I have been told a few times that it was vegan but is no longer.
I dont drink larger as a rule and after 2 small bottles of bud set off a week long allergy attack I wont touch the stuff again.

Ive also heard the bull fighting sponsorship several times.

Its so hard to keep up with all the changes

cheers

G

[Cumin]

Gibby,
If you are saying that Becks is not vegan, what is your source of information? I asked them myself a while back and was told that it was, and this is generally accepted by the vegan community. Also, it's produced under the German purity law for beer which prohibits the use of any additives.

[gibby]

Hi

I have 4 seperate friends who are vegan who have told me this, and I have seen it on other forums that it is nolonger vegan.
I agree german beers usually are vegan but isnt becks now brewed in the UK for the UK market?

looking in the animal free shopper its nolonger listed.

However I would check yourself to make sure as my info could be wrong.
Things change so much its so hard to keep up.

didnt they do the same with Heiniken and Stella a while back?

Ill email scottish courage - who supply it and comeback to you when I havea reply



cheers

G

[Pob]

I was told that Shepherd Neame beers and particularly Spitfire are vegan.

It turns out that only the bottled beers and the keg beers are. Most draught ales are in casks except two in nitrokegs (smoothflow type beers).

Lagers seem to be available in casks and kegs.

Answer to my query:

Thank you for your enquiry about our beers.
None of our cask beers are suitable for vegans as they contain a cleaning
agent made from fish. All of our keg & bottles beers are suitable as they
do not contain this agent. This only applies to our company as other
breweries use different procedures.
I hope this is of assistance to you & you have the opportunity to try out
some of our beers.

Many Thanks.

Tracey Buddell
Shepherd Neame
Customer Service Advisor
Tel : 01795 597008
Fax: : 01795 597099
E-mail - Tbuddell@shepherdneame.co.uk

BEERS
CASK ALES
BOTTLE 1698
SPITFIRE PREMIUM KENTISH STRONG ALE
BISHOPS FINGER KENTISH STRONG ALE
MASTER BREW BITTER
BEST BITTER
EARLY BIRD SPRING HOP ALE
GOLDINGS, SUMMER HOP ALE
LATE RED, AUTUMN HOP ALE
WHITSTABLE BAY ORGANIC ALE
KEG ALES
MASTER BREW SMOOTH
SPITFIRE SMOOTH

LAGERS
ASAHI SUPER DRY
ORANJEBOOM PILSENER
H&#220;RLIMANN STERNBRAU
HOLSTEN EXPORT
KINGFISHER PREMIUM LAGER BEER
SAMUEL ADAMS BOSTON LAGER

[Cumin]

I agree german beers usually are vegan but isnt becks now brewed in the UK for the UK market?

Although Becks is brewed under license in various countries around the world, all the Becks I have ever seen in the UK say "Brewed in Bremen, Germany" and they are brewed under the German Purity law which states the only ingredients used are Barley, Hops and Water and yeast." When you buy it, just check for that statement, and you know you'll be OK.
Looking at some web sources, it also appears that all the licensed breweries also adhere to this rule, so it should be vegan wherever it's made.

[Mr Flibble]

According to this page ("11 Reasons why the Reinheitsgebot is bollocks"), item 3:

3. The only permitted ingredients are malt, water, hops and yeast. . . .except for sugar in top-fermenting beers. Exactly why this is allowed in top-fermenting beers and forbidden in bottom-fermenting beers is a riddle to me. You will note that German brewers don't advertise the fact that sugar is sometimes allowed in their beers.

How vegan friendly is german sugar?

[Cumin]

Hmm..
Becks also specifically states on the bottle what the ingredients are, so I don't think that the sugar is an issue with Becks.
That being said, I think it's likely that german sugar is probably from beet (like most european sugar), which doesn't need the refining process that cane sugar has. But, like you, I don't rely on probablys for my vegan verification.

[Pob]

Extremely quick reply from Wychwood about vegan beers. They make SO Organic Blond Ale for Sainsbury which is labelled vegan.

Basically only their organic beers are vegan.

Hi Rob

Thanks for your e-mail.

Other beers we brew which are vegan are;

Wychwood Circlemaster
Duchy Originals Ale / Summer Ale and Winter Ale
Brakspear Live Organic Ale

These are also all organic ales.

I hope this helps.

Best Wishes

Georgina Hicks

[snaffler]

Becks is defiently vegan I emailed them less that 3 months ago and it listed on many vegan databases. All becks I see says imported from Germany.

Back to the reason for my post for those interested Jägermeister is Vegan

Dear Jayson,
We refer to your inquiry dated September 21st, 2006 which we like to comment as follows:
Jägermeister is an herb liqueur produced out of 56 herbs, roots, fruits, etc. These are without exception natural ingredients.
Animal products are not used for the production of Jägermeister and are therefore not contained in our product so that we can assume that Jägermeister is also suitable for vegans.
We hope having been of service with this information. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards,
Mast-Jägermeister AG
i. A. Sandra Glöhde
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jayson Rowe
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. September 2006 10:52
An: international
Betreff: A Dietry Question

Dear Jaegermeister,

I am writing to ask if you can advise me if your product is suitable for vegan and vegetarian diets.
By this I mean does any of the process form pre and post production contain or use any animal derived products and animal derived by
products and of course any animal products during production. If this is the case it would be deemed unsuitable for vegan and vegetarian diets.

I hope you are able to help me and I look forward to hearing from you in the near future as this will help me make my purchasing decision much quicker.

Best wishes and thanks for your time

Jayson

[Pob]

Badger beers are vegan in bottles, cans, and kegs, but not casks.

Dear Rob

Thank you for contacting us, it is always wonderful to hear from our
customers.

To answer your question all of our Bottled and Canned Ales and Keg beers
are suitable for both Vegetarians and Vegans. However, our Cask Ale is
not. An animal product is used in the filtering process with Cask Ale,
and as such is not suitable for Vegetarian or Vegan consumption.

I hope this helps and answers your question.

Kind regards
Vicky Kerr
Marketing Assistant

***** BADGER IS WORLD CHAMPION ALE *****

Badger First Gold won double gold at the Brewing Industry International Awards 2005, winning best in category and best overall packaged ale. Visit us at www.badgerfirstgold.co.uk.

[snaffler]

Badger beers are vegan in bottles, cans, and kegs, but not casks.

Yep you cant beat a bit of tangle foot nice beer...I once mailed them to Pob I got an email back from the lab guy, very good response as it yours.

[Kevster]

Snaff, i thought you only drank Scrumpy? What's this polluting your system with proper ales and beer?

AbFab, look at you and your champagne, what's the special occasion or is it just breakfast time?

All these questions need to be answered.

[snaffler]

I dont mind some of the real beers but they are so hard to get 100% vegan where as the cider is, yes I favour the scrumpy but I am partial to the odd ale or two.

[gertvegan]

Has anyone checked to see if King Cobra is vegan yet?

[RedWellies]

Cobra is vegan but I don't know what King Cobra is.

[Harmonia]

Thank you for all this info!!!

[Soul Rebel]

Cobra is vegan but I don't know what King Cobra is.

King cobra is cheap malt liquor and made by Anheuser-Busch.