Help Meat is murder by The Smiths get in the charts

[gertvegan]

I received this yesterday

Hi

You have probably already heard Meat is Murder by The Smiths (see lyrics below if not) but at http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=67434 we are doing an experiment with downloaded music.

The idea was just to get Morrissey in the charts but a few of us think it should be Meat is Murder and there has been a great suggestion of everyone downloading it Easter week when everyone will be tucking into their Sunday dinners and Meat is Murder gets played on the radio!

It isnt decided yet but would your members be prepared to download the track in the same week so we can get it in the charts and get more people to hear it? It would be a great way to raise awareness of vegetarianism. It is responsible for converting me to vegetarianism and I wasnt all that keen on Morrissey at the time.

Please let me know if you are willing to participate and I will be in touch with dates and the link.

Thanks
Lyndsey


Heifer whines could be human cries
Closer comes the screaming knife
This beautiful creature must die
This beautiful creature must die
A death for no reason
And death for no reason is MURDER

And the flesh you so fancifully fry
Is not succulent, tasty or kind
It's death for no reason
And death for no reason is MURDER
And the calf that you carve with a smile
Is MURDER
And the turkey you festively slice
Is MURDER
Do you know how animals die ?

Kitchen aromas aren't very homely
It's not "comforting", cheery or kind
It's sizzling blood and the unholy stench
Of MURDER

It's not "natural", "normal" or kind
The flesh you so fancifully fry
The meat in your mouth
As you savour the flavour
Of MURDER

NO, NO, NO, IT'S MURDER
NO, NO, NO, IT'S MURDER
Oh ... and who hears when animals cry ?

Will let you know more as and when.

[Marrers]

I'll always do anything I can to help to get Mozza in the charts but to get this track in would be especially good!

But is that the way the charts work? Can any track get into the singles chart as long as it is popular enough or does it have to be offically released as a single?

[Gorilla]

the charts now include downloads from certain sites, so if enough people download the same song in the same week it'll end up in the top 40.

[boomshanka]

He just keeps getting better! Will defo download in support. prefer 'cemetery gates' though.

[Purple]

I presume you don't mean the Pantera version?

[Barley]

YES... I'll do it

[aubergine]

What webstore works with the charts?

[boomshanka]

I presume you don't mean the Pantera version?

As a member of the 'Doris Day fan club' Purps, I think you could take an educated guess. I wonder if you could can 'headbang' to Doris Day?
Tell you what, I'll listen to Pantera and you headbang to 'secret love'. Deal!

[emmapresley]

What webstore works with the charts?

woolworths apparently. Does i-tunes?

ill happily download

[Stu]

Don't do it yet though, folks! We all need to download it at the same time (or rather, in the same week) as each other.

[fiamma]

Tell me the time and place and I'll be there, virtually...

[vegcurry]

I checked http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=67434 and it looks like they aren't going for Meat Is Murder, but Pigsty instead

[terrace max]

What do they know? They voted 'National Front Disco' into second??

[Stu]

So?
National Front Disco is a fantastic song. It should have been a single.

[terrace max]

Compared to the rest of his dreary solo output, admittedly, not a bad tune - although SPM can't claim much credit for that.

The lyrics, on the other hand, are shit.

[Stu]

Must.... resist...... correcting.... Terrace......... Max.............

[terrace max]

Lol! Go on, give in to it...

[gertvegan]

I received this today, after enquiring if it was still going ahead, and if you wish to follow the thread, see http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=67434

Yes it is but on Moz solo they are doing another song first so I thought I'd get an idea of whether people wanted to help, get that one out of the way (Feb) then send out exact dates (most likely Easter but will confirm) then send a final reminder the week before. I also want to make sure of other releases that week as I would be very upset if Robbie Williams did one the same week and kept Meat is murder off the top spot!

We need the support of Moz solo so I'll wait for them to get the other one done. Might be good practice as a trial run anyway. I will be in touch and thank you for your interest.

[vegpunk]

Does Napster work with the charts?

[vegpunk]

Is this for the UK or US?

[Marrers]

Clearer details here - saves you trawling through the message board thread.
http://www.getmozinthecharts.vze.com/

If you sign up to the mailing list they will email to tell you when to download the track - though they have chosen to do 'Life Is A Pigsty' now. It's a shame they aren't doing Meat Is Murder but maybe if this works we can do that next.

There is a list of where you can download from to get it counted in the UK charts and there is one site mentioned which can be used by people outside the UK.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_285kKwF3Q&eurl=)

[fiamma]

Sorry for being dense, but I thought the point was to get "Meat is Murder" in the charts? Or is this just a trial run? But then, if it is a trial run, how will we know how many of those who voted for Life is a Pigsty would vote for Meat is Murder? Sorry to be such a pedant.

[Marrers]

From reading the website it seems there was just a plan to get any track in the charts. Someone suggested if they chose Meat Is Murder they could get Peta etc behind it - but I think they got no response so gave that idea up.

[Stu]

Sorry for being dense, but I thought the point was to get "Meat is Murder" in the charts? Or is this just a trial run? But then, if it is a trial run, how will we know how many of those who voted for Life is a Pigsty would vote for Meat is Murder? Sorry to be such a pedant.

No - they just wanted to get a another Morrissey song in the charts. When they were taking a vote as to which song it would be, 'Meat Is Murder' just happened to be one of the choices.

[fiamma]

Oh... I thought it was a vegetarian statement since PETA was originally behind it.

[tilly]

I like Morrisey, but I don't download stuff...

I would if it was 'Meat is Murder' though...

[PinkLogik]

I got this through email today:

Here's the link as promised. Hope you can help. Apparently 2 downloads per
person is the best way to do it as too many and you can get disqualified.
Thanks
Lyndsey
http://www.freewebs.com/meatisstillmurder/index.htm

[Marrers]

[Marrers]

I need reminding nearer the time!

In fact within the voting period please, if anyone remembers to bump this on the first day of voting it would be great. Thanks.

[vegan doll]

I know this has been discussed on here before so I won't go into too many details but if you would like to help with the campaign to download Meat is Murder by The Smiths into the charts please do so this week - cost is 79p. See link for details
http://www.freewebs.com/meatisstillmurder/

This also has a mention on the Vegan Society newspage and the Vegetarian Society classified section.

http://www.vegansociety.com/phpws/

http://www.vegsoc.org/directory/misc.html

Multiple downloads can lead to disqualification so only download once or twice maximum. I have given 79p each to all my non veggie/non vegan friends and asked them to do it also as a favour!

Thanks

[vegan doll]

Also got a mention on Peta's Myspace
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...3-f7f329f7cd85

[Marrers]

I've downloaded it! Anyone else?

[aubergine]

I tried several sites and they all crashed.

Can anyone reccomend one that doesn't require me to download any software in order to use it?

[Pob]

I don't quite get this idea. Aren't we just shovelling tons of money at this?

Couldn't this money be better used by just donating it to Viva, or someone like that?

Just seems like a lot of money will be needed to be spent in total, and it will give a few people a stack of cash. Seems a bit of an odd idea. Except maybe to the people getting a slice of the cash.

[Mr Flibble]

What are your vocals like pob? I've got a grade 2 in piano (well, actually I never took the exam, and I was on my second teacher when i gave up), shall we make an mp3 to flog to stupid people?

Sarcasm aside, I do think this is a really dumb idea.

[vegan doll]

I tried several sites and they all crashed.

Can anyone reccomend one that doesn't require me to download any software in order to use it?

I have used HMV & Tesco - they both worked fine and didnt require any software downloading. I would say the Tesco one is a bit more straightforward for new users - instructions on freewebs page.
Good luck!

[vegan doll]

I don't quite get this idea. Aren't we just shovelling tons of money at this?

Couldn't this money be better used by just donating it to Viva, or someone like that?

Just seems like a lot of money will be needed to be spent in total, and it will give a few people a stack of cash. Seems a bit of an odd idea. Except maybe to the people getting a slice of the cash.

I dont think 79p is a ton of money really, collectively possibly but thats not really the point. I dont know of vegans / veggies outside of the Morrissey fan base really but certainly all those I know say it was listening to that song one time that persuaded them to take the plunge. I wasnt a fan of the smiths when I first heard it so I didnt become veggie (later vegan) because Morrissey 'told me to'. I did it because its a really powerful song that hit home instantly. Vivas stats say that a meat eater eats their way through 4022 animals in a lifetime so 79p is better spent persuading more people to become to veggie/vegan and this song works. More animals will be saved this way I would imagine than your 79p going towards a one off rescue operation.

[RedWellies]

II dont know of vegans / veggies outside of the Morrissey fan base really

Come to one of the UK meet ups and meet me then!!!! I'm not a fan.

[Pob]

Obviously one 79p isn't gonna go far, but the number of 79ps needed in this case would.

What is happening with all the proceeds?

If it was a new song, or a new recording or something, then maybe there would be merit in the idea. Just seems like some people will be making money for old rope out of the idea.

[vegan doll]

Obviously one 79p isn't gonna go far, but the number of 79ps needed in this case would.

What is happening with all the proceeds?

If it was a new song, or a new recording or something, then maybe there would be merit in the idea. Just seems like some people will be making money for old rope out of the idea.

I know what you're saying but because it isnt an official thing the band probably dont even know anything about it. I would like to think if it does well they will donate any proceeds but obviously I cant guarantee that because I can't get in touch with them. Wish I could ring up Moz and ask him though!
A few people have mentioned this but if The Smiths earn, say, £2000 from this and just 10 people are persuaded to be veggie then thats somewhere approaching 40,000 animals not eaten. Who benefits the most? I'd pay the 2 grand myself to see that happen!

[vegan doll]

Come to one of the UK meet ups and meet me then!!!! I'm not a fan.

What goes on at these meet ups then? Will I get vegan cheesecake?

[RedWellies]

You might well do! See the UK meet up thread (you need to join the group to view).

[StevieP]

David Hepworth considers how pop music has provided an education for its
listeners. He talks to people who say their ideas were changed by The
Smiths' Meat is Murder; http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/pip/olki1/