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    Default Vegan Paris

    Hello.. I am going to Paris next week. Just to get on the bus there for traveling to pamplona, but I have some time left in the schedule, so maybe some eating over there Is there a vegan restaurant or something?
    (where they talk english?)

    My french is not so good. Je ne parle pas francais
    bonsiour, au revoir, voulez vous coucher avec moi ce soir?, je voudrais un cafe

    That are the only sentences I know from my french lessons on school Is that enough there?

    The last time there not much people knew english... or didn't want to talk english. I think I will bring my vegan passport with me
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    ooh, it's been a long time since i went to Paris...(i'm in the south east)...but last time i mostly ate felafel and in lebanese restaurants...(ordering in mangled french but at least felafel are called felafel everywhere!)

    probably a good surf on the internet might be in order to find places to eat otherwise (vegan paris restaurants in google or something), i think there are some restaurants,

    and taking your vegan passport is a good idea....I think it just depends who you get as to whether they'll talk English or not

    good luck and sorry to be not much more help!

    (i'm seeing a vegetarian who used to live in Paris this afternoon so if she has any ideas i''ll pass them on...)

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    After Midnignt in Paris...
    there is a club/venue called batofar in an old lightship that was good, don't know if still is now - www.batofar.org

    I don't know if these links will work, the second is all about late night paris, though it might be a bit early.....if the links don't work try google.co.uk and "late night paris" guardian as search terms

    http://travel.guardian.co.uk/activit...210268,00.html
    http://travel.guardian.co.uk/activit...664729,00.html

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    I quite often go to Paris (thanks, Eurostar!) as I have relatives there. I don't find eating out impossible there as there are "ethnic" restaurants - Lebanese, Moroccan etc - and also a few vegetarian ones (I like Le Grenier de Notre Dame and Piccolo Teatro). It is harder outside Paris, though we had a holiday in Avignon a couple of years ago and got on all right (can't remember exactly what we ate now but there was a Moroccan place and pizza places that would make pizza without cheese).

    Must admit though that I am rather lax when abroad about finding out exactly what's in things. For example, if couscous is advertised as vegetarian I take their word for it.

    If you are self-catering it's no problem - they have fantastic fruit and vegetables.

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    I have been to paris. Some pictures you can also find here:
    http://www.denatuur.nl/pamplona/

    We went there to a vegetarian restaurant called Le Grenier de Notre-Dame
    Most of the food was vegan. On the menu there was written if it was vegan.
    It was nice food.

    The second time I was in paris (on the way back from pamplona) I didn't eat there, but went to a nature health shop. It was funny to see that there was a lot of products from belgium of the Netherlands.
    In the bus back to Paris from Pamplona french activist talked about a demonstration against Bennetton on the Day we were still in Paris... so we helped with the demonstration

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    Veggie Pride : May 20th 2006 in Paris

    Are you veggie or vegan for the animals ?

    Come to the Veggie Pride !

    http://www.veggiepride.org/en/

    Meeting in Paris, Saturday the 20th of May 2006 at 2 pm, in front of the Beaubourg Centre (Centre G. Pompidou, Paris 4th city district ; Subway station Rambuteau, Line 11).

    Details on the course of this day are at the end of this message!

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    Manifesto of the Veggie Pride

    Veggie Pride, festival of vegetarian and vegan pride

    Our aims :
    To declare our pride at refusing to have animals killed for our consumption
    To refuse to rob sentient beings of their sole possessions, of their very flesh, of their very lives; to refuse to take part in a concentration camp system which turns their short lives into perpetual torment; to refuse to do all of this for the mere pleasure of the palate, for the satisfaction of a habit, of a tradition: To refuse to do such things should be just plain decency.

    However, history does show how difficult it is, when barbarity is the social norm, to simply say No.

    We wish to declare our pride at saying No.

    To denounce vegephobia
    Instead, they want us to feel ashamed. Vegetarianism is concealed, ignored, mocked, marginalized and even defamed.

    Vegetarianism challenges the legitimacy of the confinement and slaughter of billions of animals. Just by existing it breaks the law of silence. This is the reason behind vegephobic mockery and hatred.

    Of course vegetarianism is tolerated when it is the harmless sort that claims to be no more than a private choice, a matter of distaste for meat or of concern for personal health or the environment. But woe betides us if we openly challenge the barbarous order!

    At first we are laughed at. Caring about chickens and cows is supposed to be ridiculous. Laughing at a disturbing idea is a way to get rid of it without having to find logical arguments against it.

    But if we do not give in, the laughter turns sour. At first they found us funny, now they call us monsters. We are traitors to the human species since we would limit its rights. We are unworthy parents for not teaching our children the joys of dead flesh. If we care for animals we must be Nazi sympathizers since Hitler too loved dogs. Our ideas are those of an intolerant cult since they are different from what others believe.

    We are called terrorists; accused of worshipping nature or of breaking its laws. No argument is too farfetched when it comes to misrepresenting our ideas, putting us to shame and symbolically
    rejecting us from society.

    We refuse to apologize for our compassion. We are proud to declare that we are vegetarians. We are no longer willing to feel shame for refusing to kill. We are here; we are well alive and thinking and will speak out.

    To proclaim our existence
    All over the world we are millions of humans saying No to this carnage. Few civilizations have actually taken for granted that eating animals is justified. But when do you hear about those debates? Mentions of vegetarianism are systematically missing in textbooks and biographies.

    "The man who eats meat or the hunter who agrees with the cruelties of Nature, upholds with every bite of meat or fish that might is right." - Isaac Bashevis Singer, Nobel prize in Literature.

    By stepping forth we also prove that it is possible to live without meat. We live without eating cows or pigs, chicken or fish or prawns. And we are as alive and healthy as anyone else, despite those media-promoted "specialists" whose science consists of denying the facts. Neither vegetarianism nor Veganism (which rejects all animal products, including milk and eggs) has any particular negative effects on health - indeed; current studies tend to show the opposite!

    There is no spell that says that to live one must kill. We are not obliged to do so, neither individually nor collectively. Animal husbandry does not provide food, since farm animals eat much more than their dead flesh can render. Despite this, massive public funding supports animal farming and fishing.

    To defend our rights
    No rights are granted to the animals that are raised and killed for food; but we who stand on their side do have rights, in principle. We are determined to exercise our rights in full, because they are our rights, and because they are theirs - the only rights that they may today, indirectly, enjoy.

    We have the right to receive decent meals at school, at work and wherever meals are served to groups of people. We have the right to raise our children without forcing upon them the products of the
    slaughterhouse.

    We are not willing to have our taxes used to support the raising and killing and the fishing for the tastes of others.

    We are no longer willing for our actions and our ideas to be systematically silenced. We no longer accept that the only public voices should be those of the corporations and intellectuals who defend the consumption of flesh.

    We demand an open debate.

    "We are the mirror of your guilty consciences
    and this mirror will no longer hide"

    Faced with images of heaps upon heaps of animals "destroyed" for case of bird flu, BSE or foot-and-mouth disease, we alone felt no shame. We were not shameful for ourselves. But we felt shame for all others.

    Above all, we were sad. However much we insist on asserting our pride in saying No to barbarity, this brings us no satisfaction. The animals are slaughtered by the billions. They are held to be dumb, their cries do not count. We shall speak out for them until the massacre halts.

    We are animals
    and stand in solidarity with all animals!

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    Practical details and other informations

    The Veggie Pride is a demonstration open to any person who does not eat the animals. Concerning this restriction, check out our Frequently Asked Questions.

    2.30 pm : start of the demonstration
    We ask that the slogans, signs and streamers be exclusively centred on the vegetarianism or vegetarianism for the animals. The Veggie Pride being a demonstration of individuals expressing their pride to be vegetarians or vegans for the animals, we ask that no initials or name of organization be reproduced on the streamers and signs.

    4 pm : Arrival at the « Fontaine des Innocents » (fountain of the innocent ones)
    End of the procession and installation of a "happening" symbolizing the ocean of suffering and death imposed daily on the animals.

    4.30 pm - 5 pm : Happening
    The demonstration and the happening will be declared in prefecture in accordance with the law.

    From 5.30 pm : Various activities

    7.30 pm : Start of the after-pride
    A party will take place, further details will be given subsequently on our website. Possibility of accommodation or housing amongst inhabitants of Paris.


    To come to the Veggie Pride :

    The SNCF (the French Railway company) proposes worthwhile tariffs for the tickets taken two months in advance.

    To know if a grouped departure is planned from your area, you can contact our regional delegates.

    A small ads service is also at your disposal for your requests of car sharing, accommodation, etc. Do not hesitate to use it.


    Sign the Manifesto of the Veggie Pride ! Independently of your participation in the Veggie Pride, we invite you to read the text of the Manifesto (see below) and, if you agree with it, to declare that
    by signing it.


    You can sign it on the Web
    You will also be able to sign it yonder, during the demonstration.

    To make a donation to the Veggie Pride
    Any donation, even minor, will be very welcome.

    You can also subscribe to the circulation list by sending a blank email or on the website.

    Help us to make known the Veggie Pride by broadcasting this message to your contacts!

    By wishing you numerous with us on May the 20th,

    The organizers of the Veggie Pride.
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    Default Re: Veggie Pride : May 20th 2006 in Paris

    We were like 300 people last year. Hope more people feel concerned in 2006 so that we're a bit more numerous.
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    Merci encore pour ton engagement Alizée!

    I hope we'll be much more of course this year and we're doing our very best for it! So if anybody need further informations, feel free to contact me.

    All the best,

    Christophe

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    Default Re: Veggie Pride : May 20th 2006 in Paris

    I would love to go to this and maybe if it is on next year I will go.
    I'm off to teh Leeds Vegan Fayre on May21st so wouldnt make it back on time lol.
    Have fun everybody going though

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    I wish they'd do this in London.

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    Too far away from me Wish I could be there..
    Auschwitz begins wherever someone looks at a slaughterhouse and thinks: they're only animals.
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    Default Re: Veggie Pride : May 20th 2006 in Paris

    is there someone that has a bedplace for me? i can sleep on the floor too

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    I would go if I had anyone from Sweden to go with..
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    Quote veggiewoman
    I'm off to the Leeds Vegan Fayre on May 21st so wouldnt make it back on time lol.
    We could have our own veggie pride march, how funny would that be. People wouldn't have a clue what we were doing.

    By the way this isn't a suggestion i'm not doing it.

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    Hi!

    Sorry for haven't been replying for yonks, I had loads of work to do for school and for Veggie Pride.

    I've finished to translate the new pages on the website, then you could look at http://www.veggiepride.org/en/datelieu.php and http://www.veggiepride.org/en/after.php

    I would love to go to this and maybe if it is on next year I will go.
    I'm off to teh Leeds Vegan Fayre on May21st so wouldnt make it back on time lol.
    Have fun everybody going though
    That's a pitty that they do the Vegan Fayre on the same day...

    Quote animalsvoice
    I would go if I had anyone from Sweden to go with..
    Hey animalsvoice, you could find other veggies to come along with you, I've add your address to my MSN contact list, I'll try to put you through veggie fellows from Scandinavia. Or try to meet veggies on the web from Sweden that you could travel with them...

    Quote Tray
    is there someone that has a bedplace for me? i can sleep on the floor too
    Of course we'll have places for people to sleep, either in Montreuil, just after the after-pride Party, in CASA, look here for further details. Or either you could find a parisian demonstrator who will accomodate you. There is some parisian on the veganforum, or if you would prefer a place with bedding, pillow and mattress, then it's better to try to find a parisian demonstrator. I know dozens of them, feel free to contact me by MSN, I would prefer (I receive about 30 mails a day, excluding spams).

    Hope to see some of you on the 20th of May,

    All the best,

    Christophe

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    Default looking for a vegan roommate in Paris, FRANCE

    Hi,

    the titles says it all, I have an extra room and would rather share my place with a fellow vegan.

    It is a 2 bedroom flat, with kitchen, living room, toilet, bathroom, cable TV and broadband internet.

    Located in the 13th arrondissement.

    Available now

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    Default Re: Vegan labelling in France?

    hey, auntierozzi - this is a bit of topc, but i'm going to france on the 10th of february, and we're gonna be in paris for the whole day, before we go to caen, where we have some friends. are there anywhere in paris, you could recomment? like a vegetarian restaurant, with good vegan choices? or a kind of food we just MUST try? or other goodies? i'd really like to know, since my french is crappy. i would also be really grateful, for a list of french words like: eggs, milk, lactose, meat and other stuff that is non-vegan.. it would help us a lot! thanks in advance.. i would also give you a big virtual hug, if you can add anything i need to know! it is so hard to face the travelling-to-a-non-english-speaking-country, as a vegan, as all i can speak is english and danish.. now is the time i think i should just have studied a bit harder in french-class

    /Smoothie
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    Default Re: Vegan labelling in France?

    I was in Paris recently but had a lot of trouble finding food. I found a takeaway in the Latin quarter and the 'bio' shops were really great. Mostly, I ate falafel rolls from turkish shops. You can get some killer non-dairy gelato.

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    Smoothie, I don't know if you can get this where you are but, it might be of help to you, if you can.

    Oooooo and look what else I found! http://www.vegetarianguides.co.uk/sa...einparis.shtml

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    Default Re: Vegan labelling in France?

    Hi Smoothie,
    I live near to Caen and the best place for shopping with nice vegan icecream and soya products, and alternative 'milks' is the Jonathan Biocoop in Herouville Saint-Clair. Yorbo told me that there were a couple of really nice Chinese restaurants which do vegan dishes in Paris. They are in the 13th arrondissment which is the China Town in Paris. Yorbo please can you remind me of the names!! Thankyou! Also Harpy knows some good macrobiotic places in Paris. I don't get there very often.
    Things on your 'to avoid' list...Eggs/ Oeufs, Viande/ Meat (ask about all salads they usually have.....Lardons/bacon pieces, Fish/Poissons, Prawns/Crevettes.....Liver/Fois, ...Cheese/Fromage.

    To say 'without' you says 'sans'..eg. 'sans oeufs' without egg.

    I have found that Italian restaurants around here are more flexible about preparing something with nuts rather than cheese etc...Noix is walnuts, noisettes, hazelnuts.

    The best thing to do is try and get to a market where you will find good fresh veggies to make things yourself. There is an excellent market in Caen on Friday morning.

    Have a great time. I hope that you manage to do plenty of exciting things and are not too fed up with French restaurants!
    All the best.

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    Hi,

    check out http://www.happycow.net/europe/france/paris/index.html they have a list of all the vegetarian restaurants in Paris (there is no such thing as a vegan restaurant over here except "Maoz").

    The best value for money is definitely "Maoz" and the food is very tasty !

    As far as things you must try in France, I would have to say the bread. Make sure you ask the "Boulangerie" if they use eggs (oeufs) or milk (lait).

    Hope this helps

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    I'm going to Paris in 2 weeks weeeeeee!

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    Paris is fine veganwise as long as you stick to vegetarian restaurants or "ethnic" ones (e.g. Lebanese, yum).

    I have found staff in some of the omnivorous establishments there to be rather stroppy about modifying dishes from the menu to be vegan, and it isn't because we don't speak the lingo or don't ask politely. You wouldn't think a plate of crudites without the eggs was much to ask, but apparently it is! Grrr.

    Edited to add that (to be fair) there are probably equally uncooperative places in the UK, that we have simply learned to avoid

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    Paris on Wednesday weeee!!

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    let me guess, you're a bit excited Troutina

    hope you have a fab time, let us know how you get on with finding food. i went to Paris as a veggie and had a tough time getting much to eat, but i didn't know there were veggie cafes so i had no idea where to look.

    bon voyage!
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    Quote Gorilla View Post
    let me guess, you're a bit excited Troutina

    hope you have a fab time, let us know how you get on with finding food. i went to Paris as a veggie and had a tough time getting much to eat, but i didn't know there were veggie cafes so i had no idea where to look.

    bon voyage!
    Thankyou!!
    I am MEGA EXCITED!!
    I'll post up photos&tell you all about my food discoveries!
    Trout is bringing peanut butter supplies so he'll be ok if we're stuck

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    Paris was so lovely!
    We searched on Happy Cow for restaurants- which you definetly need to do before hand, because you could be wondering around for days before finding anything vegan by chance!!

    On the first evening we ate here:

    http://www.happycow.net/reviews.php?id=866

    Its run by a few women, very healthy food and all vegan.
    The evening we went happened to be the first shift for a lovely American lady, which made ordering easier, except she was unfamiliar with the menu!
    We both ordered by guesswork, and I was really pleased with mine:



    Pumpkin tart with a variety of salad, vegetables and rice.
    YUM!
    Trout wasn't as pleased with his, too healthy, slightly tastless and dry.
    But for somewhere to be totally vegan and healthy, its perfect!

    We had lunch at Maoz (not as good as the London branch; salads weren't as simple and I didnt have the courage to ask what was vegan! So we just stuck to houmous, aubergine, lettuce, tomato and pepperocinis. Still yum! And no fresh orange ).

    Dinner was here:

    http://www.happycow.net/reviews.php?id=4106

    Waitress seemed reluctant to speak english, so I blagged my french, but the menus were all in english and vegan is clearly labelled, with loads of choice. We sat and smiled and nodded while she read the specials (in french). Trout had lentil soup, really creamy and tasty, I had aubergine caviar, it was yum but would be better with a salad. For main he had chilli con carne and I had a vegetable burger which had a choice of 3 sauces (I had curry. Prefer to have none though really, they also had mushroom) and 3 spoons of salads. Large bottle of water on our table, plus delicious fresh juice (fresh, ie made for you- similiar to Wagamamas).

    Hope thats helpful!
    On the walk to the Pompadou centre, near the second restaurant, theres a healthfood store which was amazing!!

    I have photos here as well:

    http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...E4098481221639

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    glad you had a good time Troutina - i wish i'd known about those places when i went to Paris! thanks for posting them. great photos too.
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    Thats cool
    Go again and visit those yummy places!

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    Hey Troutina,
    Glad you had a good time in France. Thanks for sharing all that 'food research'!!! It looks great.

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    Thanks!!
    I had such a great time; plus it was so nice to visit a country I could just about talk the language! As opposed to literally knowing nothing...!

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    I went recently and as always I decide the position of where I stay so it is within easy reach of vegan food!

    La Victoire Supreme du Coeur was literally a spit away and was very nice. http://www.vscoeur.com/

    We also ate several times at Le Potager du Marais (the second place Troutina went) where we had really helpful staff most of the time but someone very off-hand on our first visit. It is quite cramped but the food was good.

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    Yeah I should have pointed out that there are like 10 tables in this place, its TINY!! You can book I think, and people were being turned away at around 9pm.

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    OK, well, I'll probably be spending a few days in Paris towards the end of June or beginning of July, but I have no idea what it's like to be vegan anywhere other than here in the UK.

    So, are there any good areas, cafes/restaurants, shops, etc?

    Edit: Maybe it's because I'm so tired, but I somehow missed the 'Vegan France' topic I'll look through there and any additional advice is still welcome
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    Whereabouts in Paris are you going to be staying, antman?

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    I'm not sure yet, nothing is booked. It'll all be a bit last minute and cheap, lol. Is there any particular area that's better for us lot?
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    I generally stay in the 5th or 6th arrondissement, the "Left Bank" where St Germain des Pres and the Sorbonne and all that are. It's not too bad for grub, as the Maoz falafel place and various other "ethnic" restaurants are there, and it's also within walking distance of some of the veggie or macrobiotic places such as Le Grenier de Notre Dame and Les 5 Saveurs de whatever it is

    The Hotel St Andre des Arts is a cheap and cheerful one in that area, but don't go unless you like climbing stairs.

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    Have a lovely time, Antman. I love Paris (haven't been for years..sigh....).
    "Do what you can with what you have where you are."
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    Thanks for all the info, it's great to know.

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    We're off to Paris in a couple of weeks, anyone got any good recommendations of places to eat? The HappyCow guide looks useful.

    Ta!
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    We always seem to fetch up in the Grenier de Notre Dame, but the Potager du Marais probably has nicer food. Have been to La Victoire Supreme du Coeur once and thought it was quite pleasant (if perhaps pricier than the others). Have eaten at several Lebanese places and they were all good.
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    Good stuff, cheers Harpy

    Seem to spend as much time finding places to eat as finding places to visit these days
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    We're off to see Iron Maiden at the Bercy arena in Paris, in July. It was either that or Twickenham the day after (which is an absolute pig to get to, nowhere to stay, etc.), but we thought it'd be more of a blast to spend in a night in Paris.

    Does anyone know of a decent - cheapish - place to stay, also, a good place where we can eat. My french isn't brilliant, but I can get by; Hemlock's is better from what I can gather.
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    Are you looking for somewhere at Bercy, in particular? If not here are two cheap hotels I have stayed in fairly recently, both in the Latin quarter

    Grand Hotel des Balcons http://www.hotelgrandsbalcons.com/

    Hotel St Andre des Arts http://www.secretsofparis.com/paris-...-des-arts.html - doesn't appear to have its own website.

    They are both OK, nothing spectacular. The St Andre des Arts is really basic - no lift etc - but is in a characterful old building and is v cheap.

    Around Bercy there appear to be Ibis-type hotels among others but I don't know what it would be like as an area to stay in.

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    We don't want to go too far off from Bercy, as we'll probably have one or two beers at the gig. Ibis hotels want silly money!
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    Let's hope you'll get a reply from someone who knows that area. On Expedia you can search their Paris hotels by arrondissement but unfortunately they don't seem to have much that's cheaper than the Ibis in the 12th.

    There does seem to be an Etap (cheaper version of the Ibis) quite nearby but it looks as if you may have to cross some kind of spaghetti junction to get to it, which may not be advisable after a couple of beers The metro runs quite late though so from that point of view you probably could stay in another part of town if you want.

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    (Oh no!! Corum's done it again!!! )

    I like the metro. First time I went to Paris, I got a taxi from Gare du Nord to the hotel - big mistake! Took about an hour to get two miles.

    On the way back, I took the tube - when I realised that the metro station was right outside the hotel
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    had a look at the etap site.

    Looks like Bercy's only a short metro ride away from the hotel and it's only 54 euros a night for the room!
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    We stayed in the Cardiff Etap once and it was fine although basic and sort of modular. Everything is automated so you have to swipe your keycard to get into the lift etc. The bed was a thinnish mattress on a board which might not be very good for people who like soft beds (we don't, fortunately).

    I read a review of that Bercy one (on Tripadvisor I think) saying that there was no pavement so you had to take a taxi to get there (same idea as Hemlock's story perhaps), but there was another review contradicting it and saying it was easy to walk to the Metro station.

    Happycow is also quite good for Paris restaurant recommendations. The Potager du Marais won't be all that far from your neck of the woods. You need to book there though.

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