The Juice Thread

[Mariela]

Did i do that right? Or am i supposed to keep talking about what you guys are talking about? Sorry if i was supposed to start a new thread for that.. New at this. Thanks.

[Evilfluffbunny]

Did i do that right? Or am i supposed to keep talking about what you guys are talking about? Sorry if i was supposed to start a new thread for that.. New at this. Thanks.

Hi Mariela,

Yes, you can start your own thread, or you can use the search bar and see if there's already a thread about your topic.

[Korn]

you can start your own thread, or you can use the search bar and see if there's already a thread about your topic.

Hi Mariela, EFB's suggestion is normally the best solution, but now I have created a new thread out of the posts above. Welcome!

[Astrocat]

Sorry - I have no idea, as if i want fruit juice i by far prefer to make my own, fresh.
of course, this way every fruit juice is free of gelatine *yay!*

[ConsciousCuisine]

Okay, I am going to start this thread out with a juice that will kick your @$$ You decide if it is in the "pleasure" or "health" category for yourself

Serves 2

2 inches ginger
2 large beets, with greens
2 inches daikon radish
1 1/2 pounds dandelion greens
1 bunch romaine lettuce
6 large carrots
1 container onion and alfalfa sprouts
1 gala apple
1 lemon (peel and all!)


Juice, stir and drink immediately

[Mr Flibble]

your post should be moved to the "need a yummy recipe" thread

where does one acquire dandelion greens from?

[ConsciousCuisine]

Heeheehee

I get dandelion greens at the local co-op or Whole Foods Market. This is an *intense* juice!

[maya]

They grow in my backyard. They are slightly bitter but very good for you.

your post should be moved to the "need a yummy recipe" thread

where does one acquire dandelion greens from?

[BookBomb]

I am a new vegan and wondering what are some good brands for fortified orange juice. I've shopped around and found some but many contain animal products(vitamin d3). Also, what are animal derived calcium ingredients?

[Tigerlily]

I think calcium lactate is the non-vegan calcium version.

I don't drink orange juice (allergies), so I don't know exactly.

[BookBomb]

thanks a lot everyone!

[herbwormwood]

Why do you think you need this? Healthy vegan diets are calcium rich.

[Tigerlily]

That's true, but if you're going to drink orange juice, why not drink the calcium enriched one? It's not going to hurt.

[Korn]

It's not going to hurt.

That depends how much extra calcium you get from other possible sources (calcium supplements, fortified plant milks, multivitamins etc).

I'll post something in The Calcium Thread about this very soon...!

[BookBomb]

That's true, but if you're going to drink orange juice, why not drink the calcium enriched one? It's not going to hurt.

I am getting enough calcium from enriched soy/almond/rice milks, but I really enjoy orange juice and might as well get calcium from it too.

Everything I read about becoming vegan always talked about calcium fortified orange juice as a source of calcium, but I have yet to find a vegan one.

[thecatspajamas1]

In my nutrition class the other day, nobody knew that there were non-milk calcium sources other than "calcium fortified orange juice". It was funny and sad. Me and the other vegan were like "Um.... GREENS, tofu, soymilk......"

In high school before I was vegan I would buy calcium-fortified orange juice because I hated milk. I haven't really had it in awhile. So is Tropicana not vegan?

[herbwormwood]

That's true, but if you're going to drink orange juice, why not drink the calcium enriched one? It's not going to hurt.

depends who makes it. I boycott some companies for (non vegan) ethical reasons. also if its not vegan it might hurt my conscience!

[forthebirds]

Does anyone know which brands are vegan?

[herbwormwood]

Does anyone know which brands are vegan?

which are calcium fortified too?

[Yoggy]

I looked for a similar thread about this article but couldn't find one, so hopefully it's not a duplicate...

I was reading the "is coke vegan" thread and was somehow reminded of this article I read a while back. Apparently even sugar-free natural juice is hardly better than pop:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in673229.shtml

Story follows:

(AP) Soda in a sippy cup?

Most parents wouldn't dream of it. But researchers say that when a baby's bottle or cup is filled with juice — even the 100 percent, all-natural, no-sugar-added stuff — parents might as well be pouring Pepsi.

A growing body of science is linking sweet drinks, natural or otherwise, to a host of child health concerns, everything from bulging bellies to tooth decay.

"All of these beverages are largely the same. They are 100 percent sugar," Dr. David Ludwig, an expert on pediatric obesity at Children's Hospital Boston, said recently. "Juice is only minimally better than soda."

The trouble is that parents who are quick to limit a child's soft drink consumption often overlook or even encourage juice indulgence thanks to the beverage's good-for-you image.

But that image can be overstated. Though healthy in moderation, juice essentially is water and sugar. In fact, a 12-ounce bottle of grape soda has 159 calories. The same amount of unsweetened grape juice packs 228 calories.

The $10 billion juice industry maintains that a conclusive link between its products and obesity has yet to be established, but researchers say sugar is sugar, and sweet drinks of any kind must be consumed with care.

Overuse of juice is a relatively recent phenomenon. Before the rise of soda, juice and other sweetened drinks during the latter half of the 20th century, water and milk were children's primary beverages.

In a nation where nearly a third of children are either overweight or at risk of becoming overweight, health officials now say high-calorie beverages have little place in a young child's diet.

"With the possible exception of milk, children do not need any calorie containing beverages," Ludwig says. "What is needed to replace fluid loss and satisfy thirst is the same beverage we've been drinking for millions of years, and that's water."

The danger of juice is that too much can throw off the balance of calories and nutrients children need, according to Dr. Terrill Bravender, director of adolescent medicine at Duke University Medical Center.

In very young children, too much juice cuts the appetite for nutritionally superior breast milk or formula. In older children, it often supplements other foods, potentially adding hundreds of excess calories.

Part of the problem is that the calories in juice are so concentrated. Just half a cup (4 ounces) of apple juice has 60 calories, the same as a whole apple, but without the fiber that makes fruit filling.

In 2001, the American Academy of Pediatrics issued guidelines saying fruit juice should not be given to children younger than 6 months, and that there is no nutritional reason to give it to them before their first birthday.

After that, juice is optional, though the group favors whole produce and urges parents to limit juice to 4 to 6 ounces a day for children up to 6 years old, and to no more than 8 to 12 ounces for older children. Experts say pudgy children should avoid juice altogether.

Those guidelines concern the juice industry, which markets 6 3/4-ounce juice boxes and bags to kids. Children drink about a quarter of all juice consumed, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Carol Freysinger, executive director of the Juice Products Association, says some producers have felt an impact since the pediatrics guidelines were released, but she wouldn't elaborate.

She is critical of doctors telling parents to eliminate juice, saying it gives a bad name to a healthy beverage and could prevent people from getting important nutrients juice offers.

Despite the guidelines, 60 percent of 1-year-olds drink juice, averaging 11½ ounces a day, according to 2002 USDA data. That's up from 57 percent less than a decade before.

The USDA also found that more children younger than 1 are drinking juice, up from 35 percent to 39 percent, though they are drinking less of it.

While juice can be a healthy way to occasionally get picky children to consume more fruit, researchers say using it too often can exacerbate bad eating habits by training kids to prefer — and hold out for — something sweet.

Dr. William Dietz, with the division of nutrition and physical activity at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, says parents need to be firm — thirst is satisfied with water, hunger with solid foods. Caloric beverages can blur that line.

Kimberly Kwitkiwski, a mother of twin 2-year-old girls, has found a middle ground. She is careful about her daughters' sugar intake, but since Jade and Jillian won't drink straight water, she spikes it with a few ounces of low-sugar juice.

Over the course of a day, the Hooksett, N.H., woman's children get only about 4 or 5 ounces of light juice.

Despite her vigilance, Kwitkiwski says it's easy to be confused by mixed messages, especially on product labels. She wonders how many parents realize "no added sugar" doesn't mean "low sugar."

Ludwig also is critical of juice marketing efforts, saying parents are easily misled into thinking they are making healthy choices. He was particularly critical of one bagged juice beverage's claim that it "hydrates kids better than water."

"This is an example of how children's diets can be perverted by the unbridled actions of the food industry when it places private profit ahead of public health," he says.

[herbwormwood]

I agree that that fruit juice contains a lot of sugar, and probably not a good idea to give it unrestricted to small children, also it is much better to eat whole fruit, but pure juice contains other nutrients than sugar, whereas soda drinks don't.

[Lorrs]

My friend is doing dietetics at uni and she told me that if you are to drink juice, you should really only be filling a glass with 1 or 2 cm of juice and the rest with water.

[Korn]

/Most parents wouldn't dream of it. But researchers say that when a baby's bottle or cup is filled with juice — even the 100 percent, all-natural, no-sugar-added stuff — parents might as well be pouring Pepsi.

Sodapop contains high amounts of processed, white sugar, free from nutrients and full of stuff that actually is fighting with the nutrients children get from other sources. It also contains other chemicals, is colored, is less fresh than natural juices that also contain vitamins, anti-oxidants...

"All of these beverages are largely the same. They are 100 percent sugar,"

This is 100% nonsense.

...researchers say sugar is sugar, and sweet drinks of any kind must be consumed with care.

Researches say that there's a big difference between sugar and sugar, and also between sucrose and fructose...

Overuse of juice is a relatively recent phenomenon.

Overuse of juice isn't good - overuse of anything isn't good, otherwise, it wouldn't be defined as overuse.


Apple contains calories, but calories in healthy amounts ain't bad. Apples also contains antioxidants, phytonutrients/polyphenols... sodapop doesn't.

"With the possible exception of milk, children do not need any calorie containing beverages,"

We know what we mean about milk, and have many threads about dairy products already, but typical for such articles, is that they claim something like (we need milk) without even trying to back it up with scientific data...

The danger of juice is that too much can throw off the balance of calories and nutrients children need.

That wouldn't be 'the dangers of juice', it would be 'the dangers of too much juice'.

In very young children, too much juice cuts the appetite for nutritionally superior breast milk or formula.

Nobody are advocating 'too much' of anything, are they?

Part of the problem is that the calories in juice are so concentrated. Just half a cup (4 ounces) of apple juice has 60 calories, the same as a whole apple, but without the fiber that makes fruit filling.

This makes sense - I'm sure an apple is more healthy. But then again, some apple juice is made from the whole apple ('cloudy'/non-clarified) juice...

‘Cloudy’ apple juice packs more antioxidants:

NEW YORK - When it comes to apple juice, “cloudier” may mean healthier, according to a study published Monday.
In a head-to-head comparison of apple juices, Polish researchers found that pulpy, non-clarified juice carried a greater antioxidant punch than clear juice. Antioxidants are compounds that neutralize free radicals, molecules that can damage body cells and contribute to disease.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6262473.stm

Polyphenols

Previous research has shown that polyphenols contained in fruit and vegetables help to protect against diseases such as cancer, by mopping up free radicals which can cause damage to cells.

Apples themselves contain a wide variety of polyphenols but when processed into apple juice some of these may be lost.

The manufacturing process used to make clear apple juice, which include using an enzyme to break down the pectin in apple cell walls and spinning to remove pulp, considerably decreases the levels of polyphenols in the end product, Dr Oszmianski explained.

Dr Paul Kroon, senior research scientist at the Institute of Food Research in Norwich said clear apple juices tended to be more popular and are more stable giving them a longer shelf life.

"A lot of polyphenols are lost when you make a clear juice. It could also be that because you're retaining that cloudiness and pectin there's the additional benefit of fibre.

"If you're interested in health, you should go for a non-clarified apple juice."

Dr Kroon said eating an apple would be better than drinking apple juice, although farmers had been growing sweeter less astringent varieties with fewer polyphenols.

UC DAVIS STUDY SHOWS 100 PERCENT APPLE JUICE IS MORE NUTRITIOUS THAN PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT
Significant amount of phytonutrients may help protect against heart disease.




Industry-funded studies back beverage benefits
Research 4 to 8 times likelier to tout milk, soda, consumer group finds

Does milk lower blood pressure? Does juice prevent heart disease? Beverage studies were four to eight times more likely to reach sweet conclusions about health effects when industry was footing the bill, a new report contends.

Its authors claim to have done the first systematic analysis of such studies published from 1999 through 2003 in hundreds of journals around the world.

“We found evidence that’s strongly suggestive of bias,” said Dr. David Ludwig, an obesity specialist at Children’s Hospital Boston who led the work, which was published Monday in the online science journal PLoS Medicine. The consumer advocacy group Center for Science in the Public Interest also participated.

Analysis of antioxidants from orange juice

Effects of blood orange juice intake on antioxidant bioavailability and on different markers related to oxidative stress.

Grape juice better than orange juice for anti-oxidants

If you think a glass of breakfast orange juice is the best way to start the day, think again.

Grape juice could be more beneficial.

Scientists have carried out the first scientific analysis of fruit juices to measure their anti-oxidant activity - the anti-ageing compounds that protect against heart disease and other chronic conditions.

Top of the league is purple grape juice followed by apple juice and cranberry juice, according to the study by researchers at the University of Glasgow.

Orange juice, the most popular fruit juice, comes way down the league.

It contains fewer polyphenols than the other juices tested, which are strong anti-oxidants.

Alan Crozier, professor of Plant Biochemistry and Human Nutrition who led the study, said: "Not all fruit juices are the same. The findings reveal that the variety of phenolic compounds and antioxidant capacity of the individual juices varied markedly."

"Purple grape juice made with Concord grapes contains the highest and broadest range of polyphenols as well as having the highest antioxidant capacity. Other high-ranking products include cloudy apple juice and cranberry juice drink."
[...]
By quenching free radicals they help to maintain oxidative balance and prevent the development of diseases including cancer and heart disease.

Professor Crozier said: "Supplementing a healthy diet with a regular intake of a variety of fruit juices such as purple grape juice, grapefruit juice, cloudy apple juice and cranberry juice, will increase the consumer's intake of phenolic antioxidants."

He added: "The message is to mix these juices during the week. That way you will get all the compounds with anti-oxidant activity. If you drink only one juice you risk missing out on the compounds in the others."

AMA Warns that Soda Pop is Major Health Hazard for Kids & Adults

Is Drinking Soda Pop Harming Our Kids? Do You Know What's in the Pop Your Kids Drink?


Stop Soda Pop: Five Reasons Not to Drink Soda

[auntierozzi]

We water down juice for our children and now they only like it like that. We find a good rule is to only have water at the table with a meal too. They don't like anything 'spikey' - that's with bubbles in. One of our children drinks gallons and the other hardly drinks anything which I find pretty difficult to encourage.

[harpy]

ISTR that putting fruit juice in a feeding bottle for the child to swig at is frowned on by dentists because it means that they're exposing their teeth to sugar for a long period, instead of just at a meal time. The "spiking" idea mentioned in the article doesn't sound so good from that point of view.

[nervine]

Imo, the ideal is 50% water and 50% fresh homemade juice. Any juice from cartons etc has been heated to last longer so contain almost no nutrients. Even if they added vitamins they're synthetic.

[piggy]

i'd say it depends on whether the juice is freshly squeezed or not. if it is, then in my opinion it is no worse than eating a piece of fruit, so wouldn't do anyone any harm, on the contrary, it only does one good.
As for (no sugar added, no preservatives, pure) processed juice, it might contain the exact same ingredients as the freshly squeezed juice, but having been heated, and treated industrially, it probably is about on the same level as refined sugar, nutritionally. meaning that in the best case scenario you're consuming empty calories, and in a worst-case scenario, negative calories.

[hollybee]

I've never given my kids juice-in fact, my daughter hates it. I think a lot of parents are fooled into thinking any amount of juice is ok, so they let the kids have unlimited quantities while congratulating themselves that their kids aren't drinking soda.

[emmapresley]

we go by a 'rule' that the kids have a glass of some good juice not from concentrate..or juiced by me juice in the morning then they get water if they're thirsty and with meals...and noone makes a fuss about it cos that's what they're used to.

have found sometimes when their mates are over and they want drinks, if there isn't anything BUT water to drink, then their mates will refuse it cos they 'don't like water'.

[hollybee]

Don't like water??? How sad! My kids drink almost nothing but water. I have to talk my daughter into having soy milk with her meals.
I have always been very careful to control the amount of sweets my kids got (even before my daughter's diabetes onset). They almost never have a sweet breakfast. The one time my son did, he turned into the most horrible little monster I'd ever seen-he pinched some kid in the gym daycare, then pinched and hit the babysitter. About a month after that, I let him have the little sweet dessert that came with his take-out lunch. An hour after that, he threw sand in some girl's face at the park.
I can't understand how some parents can let their kids get hooked on sweets the way they do. Are they just afraid that the kids won't like anything that's not sweet? A few years ago, our local library had a little celebration when they put in their new computer system. They put out grapes, cheese and fancy cookies. My kids took the fruit and cheese, ignoring the cookies (they went back twice for more grapes); every other kid that came along took 3 or 4 cookies-this was 9:30 in the morning!!
I'm not saying I'm the best parent in the world-I certainly have my faults. But as far as nutrition goes, I think I'm on the right track. Let me put it this way: If I can get a picky diabetic to eat healthy, it can't be THAT difficult.

[emmapresley]

i think it all starts because food is such an emotive issue. aren't there reasons why people find it hard to lose weight..and maintain a healthy weight? if it really were as easy as eat less, excercise more (which it in theory is) then we'd all be right as nine pence.

kids are instilled from day one that food is used as bribery, 'treats', reward and punishment and because parents feel guilty for not spending quality time.that's why your children's classmates all grabbed cookies at half nine in the morning..habit and addiction most likely. i see kids eating crisps and skittles on the way to school..yack...but then again..they're brightly coloured and full of salt and sugar..so addictive and *super exciting* maybe?

[hollybee]

Scientists think that the craving for sweets actually evolved as a way to ensure we got Vitamin C. Those who did not like fruit would die of scurvy before they had children. So it makes sense that we would crave sugar. It's part of our biology. But we're supposed to be craving berries-not Snickers Bars.
About 6 months ago, I was listening to a radio program about an organization that was trying to help poor women make better food choices. Most of them lived on fast food. They really didn't have a clue about what they or their children should be eating. One woman was wrapping hot dogs in tortillas and deep-frying them for her kids. She said: "I know I should be feeding them fruits and vegatables, but this-I know they'll eat." Another one kept a food log for two weeks. The nutritionist totaled up the calories from all the Big Macs, Pepsis and milkshakes. This woman's average calorie intake was 5000 calories a day! Her response: "Is that good?"
I find it really tragic that adults need to educated about basic nutrition (although I guess it IS good that somebody is taking on the task of educating them). It tells you something when a child who likes vegetables (like my 4 year old) is unusual.

[ViveVegan]

I actually did a current event on this article [or one very similar] not too long ago.
I think its sortve nonsense. If you drink enough of anything [other then water] it could very well have a negitive effect on you. But to say juice is just as unhealthy as soda? Please. Juice usaully has half the amount of calories as soda, and they are good calories to boot. But I think parents giving their children unrestricted amounts of juice isn't good. There is a lot of sugar in juice and if you are drinking it or giving it to your child it should be half dilouted with water.
Juice shouldn't be compared to soda. But it shouldnt be compared to water either.

[Korn]

I think a lot of confusion is caused since the word 'sugar' is used about both sucrose obtained from sugar beets and sugar cane, refined into (normally white) sugar, and also about the natural fruit sugar found in ripe fruits... If natural fruit sugar, refined, commercial fructose, sucrose (table sugar/saccharose), lactose (milk sugar), dextrose, glusocse and other terms all called 'sugar', we may end up talking about different topics without noticing it!

Fruit juice that is sold with added sucrose is normally never called 'juice' here; the term 'juice' means that no kind of sugar is added. But fruit juice with added sugar is sold too (which contains both the natural fruit sugar and added, refined, processed sugar)...

Sucrose is not found in fruits. Natural fruit sugar is found in fruits, vegetables and other plants.

Natural fruit sugar found in fruit converts slowly, which means that gives most plants a low glycaemic index, unlike sucrose and glucose.

One example showing the difference between the effect of sucrose and natural sugars found in fruit, is the effect they have on people with diabetes. (I don't know much about diabetes, but have both read that small amounts of oral fructose may improve glycemic control in people with diabetes, and that they can eat any kind of fruit, regardless of the amount of natural fruit sugar it contains.)

Here's what FDA (Food Standards Agency) says about fruit juice vs. other drinks:

Fruit juice and smoothies

Fruit juice and fruit smoothies contain lots of vitamins that are good for our health, especially vitamin C. A glass (150ml) of fruit juice counts as one of the five fruit and veg portions we should be having each day.

But fruit juice also contains a kind of sugar that can damage teeth, so it's best to drink it with a meal.

The sugars found naturally in whole fruit are less likely to cause tooth decay, because the sugar is contained within the structure of the fruit. But, when fruit is juiced or blended the sugar is released. Once released, these sugars can damage teeth, especially if fruit juice is drunk frequently.

When you are choosing fruit juice, remember to check the labels carefully to make sure you are buying 100% fruit juice and there is no added sugar. Also watch out for 'juice drinks', which contain as little as 5% fruit juice and contain a lot of sugar.
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Fizzy drinks, squashes and sports drinks

Fizzy drinks, squashes and 'juice drinks' contain lots of sugar – which means they contain a lot of calories – and very few nutrients. So try to keep these to a minimum. The added sugar they contain can also damage teeth.

Drinking fewer sugary drinks is a good way to reduce your energy intake because you won't be missing out on any nutrients by cutting down on them. This will also be good news for your teeth.

If you or your children like fizzy drinks try diluting fruit juice with sparkling water instead. Remember to dilute squashes well for children and this is also a good idea for adults if you want to reduce how much sugar you're getting. For the sake of your teeth, remember if you do have sugary or fizzy drinks, it's best to have them with meals.

Research shows that children and young people in the UK eat too much sugar, and more of it comes from fizzy drinks than any other type of food or drink.

Children who have lots of sugary drinks, such as fizzy drinks and squashes, are more likely to be overweight and to put on weight.

So getting children to drink fewer sugary drinks is a good way to reduce the amount of sugar they eat. The best drinks to give children are water, milk and milkshakes without added sugar.

'Diet' versions of fizzy drinks also contain very few nutrients, so milk or water are much healthier choices especially for children.

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[Yoggy]

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Whenever I see an article like that that says milk is recommended to kids, I just play dumb and assume they *must* be talking about soymilk

[Korn]

In spite of all the info I just posted here (about the negative effect of blanching/freesng/canning of plants), this source (National Frozen & Refrigerated Foods Association) states that a four-ounce serving of frozen Florida orange juice contains nearly the whole amount of the U.S. Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) of vitamin C as well as folic acid, thiamine, potassium and other essential nutrients. I doubt that anyone would claim that the same would be true about sodapop!

[Risker]

"All of these beverages are largely the same. They are 100 percent sugar,"

Stopped reading after I read that

[horselesspaul]

I have a friend whose child was given a strong mixed Meridian apple juice in a sippy cup as a very young child. She, when I last saw her as a 10 year old, had NO front teeth just blackened rotted stumps.
Anecdotal, but true.
Bethan has always had her juice with a majority of water and has never had a problem drinking only water itself, in fact she reminds me to drink more water.

[mandee]

I think that anything that is processed far from it's natural state is bad for you. I mean, it doesn't come down to just the calories... but also the chemicals used for preservation, texture, and taste.

I mean... go get a think of orange juice from the store... and then juice a few oranges. You can see the difference. It's just so over processed.

*yuck*

[berta_the_aspie]

i was able to quit drinking orangejuice - cause its bad for the teeth right.. but if i take an orange and squize it WITH the pulp is it still as bad? i mean the whole whatsitcalled - acid that ruins the teeth - or the oposite of acid that scale thingie...

[bryony]

my brother doesnt, and never has, eaten enough. he **needs** juice for cals/vits. we have a very expensive juicer which we get the juice from

[bryony]

oh berta from a chinise medicine point of veiw orange juice is really dampening so shouldn't be drunk to often

[Maisiepaisie]

I think a lot of parents are fooled into thinking any amount of juice is ok, so they let the kids have unlimited quantities while congratulating themselves that their kids aren't drinking soda.

Yes, I am one of them. I encourage my kids to drink juice because they don't get enough fruit. I'm not so sure its a good idea after reading this thread

[cobweb]

I let my son have orange juice in place of fruit but he has to drink it through a straw thus minimising teeth contact. When he was a toddler he absolutely loved to eat all manner of whole fruits, especially oranges but the dentist warned me off giving him so much because his tooth enamel was getting thin .

[foxytina_69]

heres a guide on how to pick a good quality pomegranate drink, and shows you which ones are misleading and actually unhealthy and which ones are actually good for you.

http://www.newstarget.com/phototour_...e_juice_1.html

this is a quick review of all the products and what their ratings are, if you didnt feel like reading all of the previous link:

http://www.newstarget.com/PhotoTour_..._Juice_25.html

[snivelingchild]

"The company was targeted by PETA (the animal rights group) for testing pomegranate extracts on animals, but later announced it would cease all animal testing. I don't know about you, but given all the atrocious things being done to animals by drug companies and cosmetic manufacturers, I think feeding animals healing pomegranate juice extracts is hardly something worth protesting over (although I remain opposed to animal testing in principle). If feeding animals healing superfruits is wrong, then I've wronged my dog a thousand times over, because I'm always experimenting with various healing plant extracts in her dog food. (My dog is happy and healthy, by the way, and I've even fed her pomegranate juice...)"

Yeah, they just fed them some wonderful juice, and let them go back home in peace and quit. That's how it works.

[cedarblue]

good info - shame it doesn't include uk pomegranate brands.

[foxytina_69]

Yeah, they just fed them some wonderful juice, and let them go back home in peace and quit. That's how it works.

LOL no shit.

[belleadonna]

I am in love with carrot juice. It does soooo many good things for me. I like to juice it with parsley and celery. I use other combinations too but those are two of my favs. I also have been taking barley/wheat grass powder in water.
I used to juice alot and then stopped. I got lazy. I have started again and I forgot how good it makes me feel and how it helps my sinuses. I hope that I don't get lazy again!!
I am thinking of putting an ad in the paper for a part time juicer person!!

[Stu]

Apparently carrots can help you sleep if you eat one about an hour before you go to bed. I'm told the same is true of bananas.

I must admit though, I'm not aware of any scientific basis for this, so it might well be codswallop.