A taping of the show is also available on YouTube:
[YOUTUBE]_QAvkFS_cgk[/YOUTUBE]
A taping of the show is also available on YouTube:
[YOUTUBE]_QAvkFS_cgk[/YOUTUBE]
"Mr Flibble - forum corruptor of innocents!!" - Hemlock
You just beat me to it.
And by sitting back and doing nothing we achieve what? Turning the other cheek may be the moral higher ground but the racist thugs that Griffin is leader of wouldn't hesitate to beat up an awful lot of us on this forum. As vegans, aren't we already taking a stance when we refuse to participate in animal explotation, so I see no reason why shouldn't we make a stand against the degrading of other human beings because of skin colour or nationality?
I'm not against free speech, I'm just against hatred.
vegcurry
All I've done so far in this thread is to indicate that I believe in free speech and that I don't think we should copy BNP values. Sorry but I don't follow your logic that takes only these views and equates them with 'sitting back and doing nothing'.
Freedom of speech in relation to white supremacist parties is a very complex issue and I first came to appreciate this when I was opposing the rights of the American Nazi party to march through Skokie, Illinois in 1978. (Skokie is a suburb of Chicago with a large Jewish/Holocaust survivor population.)
I too am against hatred because I see it as a very self-destructive emotion.
(I'm now leaving this thread because I have a feeling that if I stay on, I'll find myself going round in circles and becoming frustrated.)
Good wishes to all
lv
Griffin attacked by own party of QT performance. See Guardian.
Barnes complained on his personal website that Griffin "should have stood up to these whining, middle-class hypocrites that use the race card for self-enrichment and thrown the truth right back into their fat, sanctimonious, hypocritical, self-serving faces". He accused his party's leader of "failing to press the attack" on the "ethnic middle class" for "taking up the best jobs while still playing the bogus race card for every opportunity". And in a move that is likely to reinforce concerns that Griffin's appearance will spark violence, Barnes used his personal website to suggest that "perhaps there needs to be a few 'white riots' around the country a la the Brixton riots of the 1980s before the idiot white liberal middle class and their ethnic middle-class fellow travellers wake up".
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion". The "X" makes it sound cool.
Heh heh.
from here."anti-democratic activities of Unite Against Fascism"
The comments are unreal at times. This species has a long way to go.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine" - Abraham Lincoln
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/b...ts/8330102.stm
slightly different topic, but I'm guessing a BNP voter. I was going to put an angry smiley here, but actually it just makes me really, really sad.
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