Watching CNN right now, waiting for the president to make a statement.
Watching CNN right now, waiting for the president to make a statement.
Very good news although the possibility of reprisals shouldn't be discounted.
I find it worrying that there hasn't been a lot of mention of trying to capture him to bring him to trial, and decidedly odd that they then decided to bung his body in the sea. Why?
"If you don't have a song to sing you're okay, you know how to get along humming" Waltz (better than fine) - Fiona Apple
I have to say, I am a bit disappointed that they did not capture him so he could stand trial for everything that he has done.
Quite a few people I have spoken with this morning think there will be reprisals from Al-Qaeda, I so hope there isnt
I'm very dubious that this has even happened, after all there is no proof. A bit like announcing that father christmas has died, and been eaten by wolves. But hey good news for the american election and the uk gets to bring in new laws to protect us from all the "terrorist" attacks that might happen. Now if only we hadn't had lots of demonstrations and civil unrest in the uk recently, maybe i wouldn't be quite so sceptical. Anyhoo looking forward to losing more of our human rights and civil liberties hohum
I think if the US Navy SEALS had captured him alive, they would have been in deep brown stuff with their commanders. The last thing the US wanted was a potential hostage situation ie "If you don't free Osama, we're going to kill x-number of US hostages." I imagine there will be reprisals but Al Qaida trying to kill westerners seems to be an unfortunate fact of life anyway. At least the symbolic leader is no longer around to exhort his followers to acts of violence.
I wonder if the postponement of the royal honeymoon is no coincidence?
lv
That's so there's no fixed grave either for sympathisers to make a shrine, or for his enemies to desecrate. (From what I've heard so far, they didn't just 'bung his body in the sea' but also had a simple, albeit I'm sure very begrudging, Islamic service.) There's no grave for Hitler either, although of course he wasn't buried at sea. Interestingly after the Israelis hung Adolf Eichmann in 1962, they threw his cremated ashes in the Mediterranean Sea, as far away from the Israeli coast as they could get.
lv
^^^
Leeds veg - You make some very excellent points, insightful
Thanks leedsveg - the initial report I read was very sparse on details but I did then go on to read a bit more in a different one.
"If you don't have a song to sing you're okay, you know how to get along humming" Waltz (better than fine) - Fiona Apple
Totally with spooky on this one!
Body already buried at sea blah blah fish(less)cakes......F*ck off.
Could obviously be totally wrong, but all smells like a whole lotta donkey turd to me.
Let the music mend our minds. Let the music bend our minds.
He was also put to the grave at sea because its a muslim tradition and the US wanted to be respectful of the community. thats what the news said this morning.....and they didn't want him to be a martr
"i'm rejecting my reflection, cause i hate the way it judges me."
Actually a burial at sea is not a Muslim tradition, but, if certain conditions are met, it is an acceptable alternative. For example, if the death occurs at sea and the body would be too badly decomposed before reaching land or if a land burial may be subject to people trying to dig up the corpse.
I think the latter would be true in this case.
Each snowflake in an avalanche pleads not guilty.
thats just what they said on the news.. so i don't know.
"i'm rejecting my reflection, cause i hate the way it judges me."
I find this worrying...
Celebrating a persons death like this is the kind of behaviour that is often criticised by Western countries.
I would not feel very comfortable celebrating a persons death, I would have preferred him live and face trial.
That notwithstanding some of these people could be family members of the 3000 people who died in the World Trade Centre, or they could be some of the 6000 people who were injured on September 11th. It still leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but some of these people may feel they have a valid reason for wanting to celebrate Osama Bin Laden's death.
it freaks me out...I know he was a bad man, and I think he needed to die, but its just kind of gross how everyone is partying so much....i mean i don't know...
"i'm rejecting my reflection, cause i hate the way it judges me."
Americans have been living under the cloud of 9/11 for ten years, they have never experienced terror on that scale before. I understand the jubilance on the streets. He is responsible for mass murder. He gave up rights to everything as far as I'm concerned, the day he cheered at the pictures of the towers collapsing. People partied hard here when Hitler's death was announced.
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Yea, it really bothers me that people are celebrating so much for someone's death, but then I was never directly affected by his actions. So I don't like the idea of celebrating someone's death, but I don't blame them for doing so. However, even over here in New Zealand I'm pretty concerned about repercussions from his supporters I really really hope nothing comes of it...
Am I correct that there is no real evidence linking BL to 911 and that he always denied having anything to do with it?
True. Its just I don't know, just weird to me to celebrate death or essentially a murder like that...I mean it is justice but....
"I mourn the loss of thosands of precious lives, but i will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." -MLKJ
"i'm rejecting my reflection, cause i hate the way it judges me."
It's nice to see some people on here defending Americans. It can get demoralizing on here with the steam of people stereotyping and jabbing us just for being Americans. It's one thing to dislike a particular person or a particular incident... hate our government, whatever, but that's not usually the case. I don't understand all the celebrating myself, but it's not like his body was dragged through the streets.
Each snowflake in an avalanche pleads not guilty.
*groooaaan*
Each snowflake in an avalanche pleads not guilty.
PETA sending appreciation chocolates to SEALS:
"When we sent these delicious dairy-free chocolates to troops in Afghanistan a couple of years ago, they were great for cravings and target practice. Now we're sending them to the Navy SEALs who took the terrorist down in order to show our appreciation."
(http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/a...px?PageIndex=3)
Uh....what?!!!?! Does anyone else think this is wrong or is it just me?
I think it's wrong, like a lot of things PeTA do............
I find it ALL very sad, but then that's human beings for you. I hope one day aliens come here and take us all over...........then we'll all wonder why on earth we used to fight amongst ourselves.
I like Sandra, she keeps making me giggle. Daft little lady - Frosty
I think there's a good chance they are already here, Dr Who on Saturday night?
Ha ha! That's what us humans would need to give us a good shakeup!Maybe aliens will come here one day, we'd be pretty smug to think we are the only life forms out there.
I like Sandra, she keeps making me giggle. Daft little lady - Frosty
I hate it when I'm studying and a velociraptor throws bananas on me.
In line with what Bluberry and Bearshark have posted, I can understand why some people initially celebrated Bin Laden's death.
lv
I can understand the impulse to celebrate, but I wish people had resisted it, from the point of view of both decency and prudence.
As for Peta joining in...well, I'm not all that surprised
^ agreed
I can't say I find that very tasteful either LV! The saving grace is that most people don't really associate it with the death of Guy Fawkes or with sectarianism any more, I don't think (except in Lewes perhaps...)
^Ha ha, the Guy Fawkes thing! I always used to think it was very disrespectful to Guy Fawkes to "burn a Guy" on the bonfire. I'd have liked to burn a model parliment instead
I guess the reason he wasn't captured might be because he might know some 'embarassing' things about Bush and what the US government has been up to. Now he's been silenced.
i really don't like the conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11, or the inside job stuff...it seriously bothers me...
"i'm rejecting my reflection, cause i hate the way it judges me."
I know you meant no offence. Its just so freaking annoying when people spurt it out, its just disrespectful IMO.
"i'm rejecting my reflection, cause i hate the way it judges me."
no no no!! I didn't mean to imply that you were being disrespectful. keep talking, i mean its good to question things and have discussions about it.
"i'm rejecting my reflection, cause i hate the way it judges me."
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