that;s a good one, mog. I'll remember to use that.
that;s a good one, mog. I'll remember to use that.
thats the exact response i use.
i actually lost a friend over that one.
he didnt like my response. He kept asking questions and getting mad at my responses... then again i can be pretty tactless. whatever.
that was in the past and i'm getting better.
sorry about keeping up the off-topicness.
umm... Things We Lost In The Fire.
the lil girl was vege.
Each snowflake in an avalanche pleads not guilty.
I recomend The Witness (A Tribe of Heart Documentary-they also made Peaceable Kingdom) a fantastic story about how one person's love for a domestic animal billows into love for all animals..And it expounds upon how ugly the fur industry is as well..
I've seen Meet Your Meat & that is why I've not yet seen Earthlings, but I will try to see soon...
I also apologise for continuing off-topicness, but just wanted to say I really feel for you losing a friend over that response. I struggle a lot when I want to say things like that which to me are completely reasonable (in the sense all species are all equal as animals on this planet), but to a standard omni would be completely unjustifiably cruel (ie. humans are *special* and live by different rules to animals). I sometimes feel like I am living on a different plane of existence, so wide is the gulf in understanding between me and my relatives/friends.
Moan over. *continues reading about interesting films*
ooh i really want to buy 'the witness' for some friends of mine who 'love' animals but won't even consider allowing their kids to go veggie (even though they keep asking!).
I saw this thread and right away thought 'all the little animals'! I thought the message was good.. there is a part when Hurt shows the cycle of life.. where mice eat what people left behind, and cockroaches eat what mice leave behind and that basically every creature is precious and has its own role to fill.
Meh!
shark tale (one of the sharks was vegetarian).
Harry and the Hendersons
except Harry the vegetarian ate fish. I'm not sure the word pescetarian was even invented yet then though...
Each snowflake in an avalanche pleads not guilty.
All the Little Animals
I don't think it has a 'message' technically but Everything is Illuminated is a great movie and the main character Jonathan Foer is vegetarian and there is a quite funny scene in the movie involving him telling the others he doesn't eat animals. Also he defends the poor doggie getting kicked in one scene.
Does anyone remember The Animals of Farthing Wood? I'm not if it was shown in the US but it was a children's programme (C. 1994) about a group of animals who unite to survive the perils of humanity when their habitat gets wrecked by builders and they go on a long journey to find a nature reserve. I used to love it and still have them all on VHS!! It covered lots of issues such as hunting and pesticide use but its main message was anti-speciesism.
Really made me ashamed to be human!
awesome. ^
I just looked it up and you can watch the episodes on youtube!
too bad my computer is acting a fool.
Each snowflake in an avalanche pleads not guilty.
i read the books, they were good.
I'm thinking about having an Earthlings screening here at school for some friends. I saw it recently and it really affected me. Hopefully I'll be able to get some support from other vegans (don't wanna be the lone vegan in the room!). A few of my friends showed interest after I'd seen it, so hopefully the plan will work out and they'll show up!
“I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning how to sail my ship.” ~ Alcott
oooOOooo, I loooooved those movies. So good! I'll have to watch it, thank you.
Also I suggest not the Harry Potter movies (because they sadly took out most of the animal rights parts, and there were soooo many) but the books. Hermione, one of Harry's best friends and also the most intelligent student at her school, tries to protect the rights of several magical non-human creatures and is ridiculed by her peers for it. There are many instances in the books where the kids (although still omnivores) save and protect (or try to) half-human and non-human creatures. The books contain many metaphors and relativities to the world we live in today. The promotion of these books is rights activism. The movies take out the most important and controversial bits so I really suggest to read the books themselves.
.....and I KEEP TRYING to get my MOTHER to fricking watch EARTHLINGS!!!!!!! argh!! None of my family listens to me!!!!!!!!! *breathes*
Out of my entire family she's the one who loves animals most, along with me, and she even has a tiny budgie that she loves incredibly much, and admittedly it's the happiest budgie in the world, it's always flying around and hanging out with her and they chat with each other constantly.
So I tried to tell her to watch Earthlings and see what happens to other birds who have simelar feelings and minds to precious Fudgie the budgie, the little pipsqueak who says full sentences and buddies up to everyone.
*Sigh*
well maybe this week.
I watched the download too and would like to buy the DVD to support the film makers, though I don't think I could cope with watching it again myself for a very long time. It almost makes me not want my family/friends to see it because it's so upsetting, but of course it's the truth and any upset we humans feel is incomparable to the suffering shown in the film. Also, it's put together so well that the overall message is positive, I think - giving ideas on how to improve, not just showing the horror.
I hope your family respond well to it.
Well if they respond like I did, then we can surely add a few more names to the master vegan list! That movie shocked over to the light (from darkness of course)
Haven't read the whole thread so sorry if it's already been mentioned; Fast Food Nation.
I watched Earthlings a week after I turned vegan. I started crying after 5 minutes and kept crying for 5 more hours. Earthlings made me realize that I'd never be able to come back to a vegetarian diet. But I think it's just me. I made two of my omni friends watch the whole movie. Both of them seemed to be quite shocked but kept eating meat afterwards.
The movie is upsetting but the fact that some people don't stop eating animals after watching it is tragic.
"Les animaux amoureux"
This is not a movie but a very nice French documentary about the love of animals. It took many years to films all the scenes for the movie.
Here is a teaser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgR6-M5z6dU
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0498091/
Don’t know if anyone has mentioned this before, but...Bambi! Happy singing animals skipping around in the forest, then Man enters the picture and BOOM! Bambi’s mom has a bullet in her side and poor little Bambi is an orphan. This cartoon has traumatised generations of children (myself included)!
I watched Year of the Dog last week because a friend lent it to me and told me it was funny, which it was but also made me cry a lot in places
Ratatouille would go in with Finding Nemo and Bee Movie I think. I loved those 3 movies. Got my dad to watch Finding Nemo since he's got a pond with fish in yet still eats fish. Grr. Didn't convince him to stop though.
Stuart Little was a cool movie about a family that want to adopt and then choose a mouse instead of a boy. Very cute film.
The good lions eat meat as well - as I remember, we don't see them kill or eat other animals, but they mention that they do it.
I'm interested by the reactions to Babe that have been mentioned on this thread. Largely, I would suspect that if a film is about talking/anthropomorphic animals (e.g. Chicken Run, Finding Nemo) then it is obviously a "fantasy" and therefore unlikely to give anyone views on animals that they would apply to reality. I wonder if it has anything to do with Babe being a live-action film, filmed with real animals?
The taste of anything in my mouth for 5 seconds does not equate to the beauty and complexity of life.
Has anyone watched A Bug's Life? I've just ordered a copy. Looking forward to seeing what it's like.
i saw Earthlings at a viewing peta put on at a local college campus in chicago. a lot of people showed up, i was surprised, but happy. honestly, at parts the whole room was tearing up/crying. no one walked out though, but i think most the people there knew what it was going to be. it was a good overview to inform people, and really hits home with your emotions. i would definitely recommend it.
isolation......dont fuck with the cow! cause it'll end up eating you....
death for no reason is MURDER
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