Traditional English Food

[jamieoneill]

Hi

Does anyone know what foods a vegan could eat that are traditionally English or Irish?

Thanks!

[veggiesosage]

Depends what you mean. Do you mean actual original traditional foods or including meat substitutes and the like, or other 'copies'?

You can't beat a full English breakfast with veggie sossies, veg bacon, mushrooms, toatoes, fried bread, potato waffles...

[Pob]

Bangers and mash
Roast dinner
Pie and chips/mash
Beans on toast
Baked potato

[jamieoneill]

I mean things like regional specialties which are not cheeses or fish dishes. Maybe it's hard to find things that fit that discription.

[Pob]

I know you didn't ask for Scottish, but:

Haggis, neeps and tatties (yum!)

[jamieoneill]

Aren't haggis and bangers meat?!

[Tigerlily]

Aren't haggis and bangers meat?!

There are meat-free alternatives.

[Risker]

Not really sure what you mean, could you give some example dishes?

Do you want alternatives for the food or want to know what food there is that you can eat without any changes?

[jamieoneill]

I meant things like regional jams, sweets, etc. I'm not really sure about substitutes - are they anything like the real thing in taste? If it was about the same then I would accept it, of course!

[Risker]

I think Jams are usually vegan anyway, at least the ones I have are, the vegan alternatives to sweets usually taste just the same or better in my opinion.

I think some subsitutes get pretty close to the flavour of the real thing and some don't but have their own unique flavour that is just as enjoyable. The only real way to decide is to try them.

[jamieoneill]

OK, thanks! But do any of you eat ones that are local, rather than international? I've been looking in recipe books for traditional foods, but most of it is fish and "red meat".

By the way I really don't like baked beans (like Heinz)!

[RedWellies]

You can't beat a full English breakfast with veggie sossies,

That's cannibalism!!

Jamieoneill, welcome! I drink local cider, does that count??

[jamieoneill]

Lol... Yes it counts. I love "real" ales.

[wannadisco]

bakewell tart is from bakewell in debry so i guess thats pretty regional to me and im sure you could veganize a recipie, also parkin from yorkshire is a gingery/syrupy tea bread, sure you could veganize that also. yorkshire puddings and the cauldron cumberland sasuages plus some mash could be kind of regional. and a balti!! that came from birmingham

*shrugs*

ive never really concidered what is a typical british dish before

[ukahela]

these are not dishes but foods and condiments, maybe too obvious or 'plain' to even consider but as a non-english person they stood out - though i'm not sure if all of them are actually british/irish. (they are often vegan, not veganised, but not all varieties or brands are vegan...):
scones
pickles & pickalilli. in fact, anything pickled.
salad cream (yuck!)
irish potato farls
crumpets
treacle pie
chips
mushy peas
hob nobs (if they still are vegan), ginger biscuits, oatcakes, and lots of biscuits
marmite
mash

[jamieoneill]

Thanks a lot! I think I'd have to look really hard to find farls with no milk in, though.

[feral]

Sainsbury's potato farls are vegan.... mmmmmmm I'm havin a vegan ulster fry in the mornin for breakfast... well apart from the soda farls & eggs & deed stuff... but I'll still call it an ulster fry hehe.

[Risker]

A few more things,

Bubble & squeek,
Ploughmans,
Cornish pasties,
Shephards/Cottage pie,
Apple Crumble.

[jamieoneill]

Thanks for the farls tip and the other posts... I suppose I should get some cookbooks but I normally just cook to please myself. Lately lots of chinese style dishes and rice / noodles.

[Wildflower]

Does anyone have an apple crumble recipe? My scottish boyfriend always asks for it, but apparently the apple crisp recipes I use aren't the same.

[Risker]

There's plenty of recipes on the net, just need to use a vegan alternative for the butter.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/da...ble_2971.shtml

[Wildflower]

Thanks Risker!

[jamieoneill]

Thanks from me, too.

[JustPeachy]

I say cheese and beans on toast, well vegan cheese of course, cures any hangover.

Usually I just have a bunch of chips from the chippy and feel terribly guilty afterwards.

[piggy]

does anyone have a tried and trusted recipe for a vegan cornish pasty?

[flying plum]

piggy - i've never tried, but i can't imagine it would be that hard. the pastry requires no eggs and the butter can easily be replaced. filling could be...well, whatever you wanted, i guess! traditionally, it's beef, potato and other root vegetables, and onion. you could replace the beef with beans or lentils, i guess?

amanda

[piggy]

i haven't eaten one in ages, but i seem to remember the bits n pieces in the pie being covered in some type of "sauce"...am i wrong? how could i make that?

[flying plum]

well, i'm guessing the 'sauce' would come from the juices of the meat, all kind of casseroled together in the pastry (i think teh whole lot is cooked from raw within the pastry case). i'm not sure how you could achieve this...i'm guessing you'd have to partially cook some of the filling beforehand in a stock and reduce it right down/thicken it slightly with some cornflour, then put it in the pastry case.

edit - ok - this is a recipe i found of a 'traditional' pasty:

http://www.greenchronicle.com/connie...nish_pasty.htm

and this is one i found of a vegan one:

http://www.grosse.is-a-geek.com/reci...nishPasty.html

amanda

[piggy]

thanks, flying plum!
the traditional one definitely looks good, i think i'll just replace the beef with some lentils cooked in some type of thick gravy!

[flying plum]

awesome - good luck you've got me hungry now...thank god the parental unit is in town and treating the poor impoverished student to dinner

amanda