If someone says that they are not into veganism as such (respect for life, being against harming and killing animals), but ie. only are against factory farming, or certain ways to kill animals, or that they are just against killing animals due to certain conditions in our society/culture, IMO they represent an outwatered veganism. The existence of outwatered veganism is actually a main motivation for running this site, because we think it's important, both for the vegan movement, human health and for the animals, that veganism is not being converted into representing a conditioned/limited resistance against harming or killing animals.
In my opinion, someone who says that 'I'm a vegan, but would not be it if *******', is not a vegan. Replace ******** with an analysis of world population, theories about rural communities that 'have to' kill animals to survive, discussions about environmental issues etc.
Even if being vegan means being against harming/killing animals, this doesn't mean that everybody who is against harming/killing animals are vegans. This is a site for people who are pro veganism.
After having seen some attempts from people who register and after a few days or hours start to agitate pro extreme variations of ideas that they think has something to do with veganism, we have changed the board guide lines, (and will adjust them even more), because we don't want discussions with people who think that eating meat or killing animals 'ain't that bad' under given circumstances. We simply don't want a message board populated by people who means that veganism possibly includes killing / eating animals.
Veganism has nothing to do with evaluating how happy the animal is, how it is killed, how many people who live on the earth, the current environmental situation the earth is in, or any other way of saying OK to eat meat or kill animals.
To avoid the endless discussions about whether it's OK to eat meat or not, we will soon declare in our FAQ and in our sign-up text (the one you have to agree with to become a member) that IF you for some reason disagree with this definition of veganism, which is the common one, this site is reserved for people who DO agree with this definition of veganism.
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