Katiebelle Posted: Nov 10 2003, 02:42 AM
I'm a new vegan and my boyfriend swears that it's not healthy. He says that I'm not going to be getting "complete" protiens, but just "incomplete protiens" from beans, broccoli and so forth. I read a study that gave a precent of protien needed (based on weight) per day and I needed like 50 some grams... which is like three packages of tofu a day! I know this is a kind of controversial debate between vegans and omnivores, so I was just wondering what you all had to say... I know it's going to be biased, because you're all vegan :wub: but, what can I say? hehe.
artbeat Posted: Nov 10 2003, 03:22 AM
Hi Katiebelle,
Just tell him that 293 members of VeganForum can't be wrong
Some vegan protein links:
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm
http://www.naturodoc.com/library/nutrition/protein.htm
http://www.peta.org/mc/facts/fsveg1.html
The issue with vegan food is B12, not protein. But you have to eat a varied diet to stay healthy when you're vegan, just like if you had been an omni. The difference is that a varied vegan diet is more healthy than a varied omni diet...
Mad101daN Posted: Nov 10 2003, 11:06 AM
Ask your boyfriend if he thinks this guy gets enough protein.
http://www.kennethwilliams.org/
One of many vegan bodybuilders.
P.S. Im not one of the many :P
Dan
Herb Albert Posted: Nov 10 2003, 12:02 PM
QUOTE (Katiebelle @ Nov 10 2003, 02:42 AM)
I'm a new vegan and my boyfriend swears that it's not healthy.
I have an idea. Try to set up a phone meeting/protein+health discussion between your bf and these vegans:
Sally Eastall, marathon runner
Keith Holmes, former world champion middleweight boxer
Carl Lewis, winner of nine Olympic Gold Medals and one of the greatest athletes of the twentieth century
Martina Navratilova, champion tennis player - one of the most successful tennis players in history
Dave Scott, six-time Ironman Champion and first inductee into the Ironman Hall of Fame
Lucy Stephens, triathlete
..and discuss the subject with with him after that meeting. Maybe he has stopped swearing by then!
PS -I found the list here: http://www.vegansociety.com/html/peo...festyle/sport/
mattd Posted: Nov 10 2003, 02:50 PM
QUOTE (Mad101daN @ Nov 10 2003, 11:06 AM)
Ask your boyfriend if he thinks this guy gets enough protein.
http://www.kennethwilliams.org/
One of many vegan bodybuilders.
P.S. Im not one of the many :P
Dan
just curious, how much protien do you generally intake per day?
Smiley Posted: Nov 10 2003, 07:39 PM
QUOTE (Katiebelle @ Nov 10 2003, 02:42 AM)
I read a study that gave a precent of protien needed (based on weight) per day and I needed like 50 some grams... which is like three packages of tofu a day!
Tofu is a great source of protein. But it depends on what brand you buy! My gf and I buy Calco firm tofu. Each 1 lb package has 48 grams of protein! So if you would have to eat three packages a day, then I suggest you switch brands.
Mad101daN Posted: Nov 11 2003, 11:11 AM
QUOTE (mattd @ Nov 10 2003, 02:50 PM)
just curious, how much protien do you generally intake per day?
I have no idea.
I do eat quite alot of fresh food, and I do love tofu, but to tell you how much protein I eat I really dont know.
Im sure its enough though
Dan
Kim Posted: Nov 13 2003, 12:14 PM
QUOTE (Katiebelle @ Nov 10 2003, 01:42 AM)
I'm a new vegan and my boyfriend swears that it's not healthy.
He still does?
phillip888 Posted: Nov 13 2003, 10:20 PM
Ditch 'em, he's not bright enough to be your boyfriend. No really strict vegetarianism of one sort or another has been around for thousands of years. If it's suddenly news to anyone on this planet that it's not only possible, but a superior diet, than they need to learn how to read, and get at it.
Katiebelle Posted: Nov 17 2003, 01:07 AM
Thanks everyone for the great resources! George hasn't eaten meat or dairy in two weeks.... who do you think won the argument? :P
muiisal Posted: Nov 17 2003, 04:25 AM
just another thought:
i found an easy way to add protein to my diet was to make a smoothie and add soy protein powder. The powder itself doesn't taste very great but with the right smoothie combination it can easily be disguised
Benalla Posted: Nov 23 2003, 11:11 AM
It doesn't seem like you need anymore help, but here's a copy of my post to someone else regarding protein:
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I've been vegan for 4 1/2 years and I'm fed up with people saying you can't be a muscly vegan. So a month ago I hit the gym and cranked up my protein intake.
Check out: www.veganbodybuilder.com for some tips and encouragement.
I get protein from: (the numbers in brackets are the percentage of the food (by weight) that is protein, not how much I rely on that food for protein)
tofu (8-20%)
peanuts (25%)
other nuts (10-20%)
very dense grainy bread (10-15%)
hommus (9%)
beans (6-10%)
rice (5-10%?)
corn(?%)
To increase protein absorption, combine foods like most cultures do: eg, Japan: tofu & rice, Mexico: corn & beans, India: rice & chickpeas, Lebanon: Bread & hommus.
Protein is not as simple as intake of some other nutrients. There are many amino acids and combining them increase your absorption by as much as 40%.
PS. Great going with the bf. I'm impressed!
PPS. I intake around 150-200grams of protein a day. For bodybuilding, 1gram/lb is the recommended intake while trying to build muscle. I don't always get there but I usually come close. It's paying off as well, over 4 weeks in the gym I have increased all my weights by about 5% and I am making steady gains.
Katiebelle Posted: Nov 23 2003, 06:37 PM
wow - maybe I should start working out... haha.... I mean, I know I need to, but I work with kids and when I get home, I'm lucky to get a shower I 'm so tired.
I do need to work on building muscle though. The only thing the muscles in my arms do is connect my shoulders to my wrists... hahaha.
Question- I was thinking the other night about protien shakes... wouldn't those work as well?
muiisal Posted: Nov 23 2003, 11:46 PM
Katiebelle
"Question- I was thinking the other night about protien shakes... wouldn't those work as well? "
I have a protein shake every day to increase my protein intake. In health food shops you can buy pure soy protein - it's with all the body building ones. It's not very cheap and not very tasty but only two tablespoons equal 30grams of protein. So it's very easy to get protein this way!
As far as making a successful smoothie goes - to combat the flavour of the soy protein - it's trial and error. It took me a good few months of combinations to get it right - now i can't even taste the stuff!
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