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    Re: Cobalt deficiency vs. B12 deficiency

    Age-related hearing loss, methylmalonic acid, and vitamin B12 status in older adults. (PMID 18032219)

    Could the fact that hearing loss is only associated with poor B12 status in some studies -...
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    Re: Cobalt deficiency vs. B12 deficiency

    Reduction of plasma homocysteine and serum methylmalonate concentrations in apparently healthy elderly subjects after treatment with folic acid, vitamin B12 and vitamin B6: a randomised trial.

    In...
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    Re: Cobalt deficiency vs. B12 deficiency

    From Changes in serum concentrations of methylmalonic acid and vitamin B12 in cobalt-supplemented ewes and their lambs on two cobalt-deficient properties.


    This is about sheep, and not humans,...
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    Re: Cobalt deficiency vs. B12 deficiency

    Comparison of the dietary cobalt intake in three different Australian diets (2004)

    "Differences in the dietary intake of cobalt were assessed for vegans, lacto-ovo-vegetarian and non-vegetarian...
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    Re: Cobalt deficiency vs. B12 deficiency

    Hi vegetarian_cat, I believe the reduced of the good bacteria needed to synthesize B12 more of a problem than lack of Cobalt as such - but this is pure speculation. The general reduction of natural...
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    Re: Cobalt deficiency vs. B12 deficiency

    This threads seems to need to be split in two... but before I do that, here some more info:
    Green, leafy vegetables contain 20-60 mcg cobalt per 100g.

    An increased intake of cobalt increases B12...
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    Re: Cobalt deficiency vs. B12 deficiency

    Another article about cobalt/B12:
    http://www.dcnutrition.com/Minerals/Detail.CFM?RecordNumber=68

    Some excerpts:
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    Re: Cobalt deficiency vs. B12 deficiency

    According to this study, "Vitamin B-12–deficient pigs fed 1 mg/kg cobalt had 47% lower homocysteine concentrations in serum than the vitamin B-12–deficient group fed 0.13 mg/kg cobalt, but the...
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    Re: Cobalt deficiency vs. B12 deficiency

    Here's another link to an article describing that the mineral that will suffer most when processing whole wheat grain into white flour is cobalt. 89% will disappear. This could indicate that cobalt...
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    Re: Cobalt deficiency vs. B12 deficiency

    Here's a link to another (heated, albeit interesting) discussion about this topic: Got milk? You've got problems
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    B12 and lack of cobalt

    http://www.scorecard.org/chemical-profiles/html/cobalt.html :

    (Note: that's milligrams, not micrograms.)

    http://www.coloradomining.org/materials.html :

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    Re: Organic vs. non-organic, B12 vs. cobalt

    Here's another comment about cobalt vs. B12 deficiency, from http://www.saltinstitute.org/47r.html :




    The question is, could any of this apply to humans as well?
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    Re: Organic vs. non-organic, B12 vs. cobalt

    The Wolfe Clinic sells 'Theta Cobalt', "Angstrom size particles the way nature intended".

    They write:


    I don't understand their slogan 'Angstrom size particles the way nature intended'. ...
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    Cobalt deficiency vs. B12 deficiency

    Animals with cobalt deficiency develop symptoms that are similar to B12 deficiency symptoms. According to this site, 'Ruminants grazing in cobalt-deficient areas show loss of appetite, reduced...
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    Re: Organic vs. non-organic food (& cobalt)

    It could also be that you had built up B12 reserves while eating animal products, and that they now have been 'emptied'... Did you use sea salt?
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    Re: Organic vs. non-organic food (& cobalt)

    Hi Seaside, B12 comes from bacteria/microorganisms, so it is not correct to say that it comes from animal products...


    Potassium is a known cobalt antagonist (B12 is based around a cobalt core)....
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    Re: What about as far as taste goes?

    http://www.veganforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45284#post45284
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/food/Story/0,2763,1418099,00.html
    http://www.chelationtherapyonline.com/anatomy/p37.htm
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    You're not by accident thinking of me, are you?...

    You're not by accident thinking of me, are you? :)



    Fair enough...


    Good point. But as we know, there are ways to grow plants without using blood, bone, horn and manure from animals. And a...
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    Well, even if it was only a 50/50 chance that...

    Well, even if it was only a 50/50 chance that putting chemicals that are not proven NOT TO HARM ourselves or our environment in the air, waterways, soil or food was harmful, would you think it's OK...
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    Journal Agricultural Food Chemistry February 26,...

    Journal Agricultural Food Chemistry February 26, 2003;51(5):1237-41:
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    Epidemiology March 2001;22:148-156 ...

    Epidemiology March 2001;22:148-156



    Occupational and Environmental Medicine (1997;54:511-518):


    Annual Meeting American Academy of Neurology in San Diego May 9, 2000
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    "The soil just about everywhere is so depleted of...

    "The soil just about everywhere is so depleted of nutrients" (confirmed by studies) - isn't this in itself a proof that exposing the soil to (certain) chemicals depletes the soil of nutrients?
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    The original article I linked to above seems to...

    The original article I linked to above seems to be gone (or moved?), maybe because there is discussion about whether or not this study reflects organically vs non-organically grown plants, or plants...
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    You can read more about cobalt here: ...

    You can read more about cobalt here:

    http://www.anyvitamins.com/cobalt-info.htm: "Since cobalt is part of the vitamin B12 molecule, the function of cobalt is interwoven with that of vitamin B 12."...
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    Organic vs. non-organic food (& cobalt)

    Inspiredliving.com has a page that according to themselves (but see below) describes the levels of some nutrients in organic vs. non-organic food. (If you click on the link, you'll see the info in a...
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    The B12-Cobalt Connection

    http://www.championtrees.org/topsoil/b12coblt.htm

    From the article:

    "B12 is the only vitamin synthesized solely by certain microorganisms—many of which are abundant in soil. And the only...
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